obiwan1
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GOOD LUCK
I hope it works out. I've been considering doing it myself.
Semper Fi
I hope it works out. I've been considering doing it myself.
Semper Fi
The USMC, Crappy Vision, Glasses & Laser Eye Surgery?
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Skunk:
Don't believe `em. BCG does NOT stand for boot camp glasses.
BCG is short for Birth Control Glasses.
Wear those goggles off base and you'll never get .....
Skunk:
Don't believe `em. BCG does NOT stand for boot camp glasses.
BCG is short for Birth Control Glasses.
Wear those goggles off base and you'll never get .....
BerettaNut92
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Glasses in the Corps = 0 CDI. Check 
"Time to turn in my carbon fiber trimmed Oakleys. "
Skunk, do you know of a place that sells Oakley frames and will install real Oakley lenses ground to your perscription ?
I decided to buy a set of Oakley perscription sunglasses after hearing some stuff from Pat Rogers about them. I was looking at their website and also decided that I liked some of their frames for clear lenses also. However, I don't know where to get them. I called Oakley and they told me to go to their local retail store. I called the local retail store and asked them about it. They told me they would sell me the frames and I could then take them to my eye doctor to have the perscription lenses made. I called my eye doctor and was told that they would not have real Oakley lenses in them since they were not an Oakley dealer.
I am not really certain that this matters, but one of the main reasons I wanted to buy these was for the "safety" properties of their lenses. I work as a fireman and appreciate the eye protection without having to wear goggles and when I am not wearing my helmet that has a flip down face shield. I also wear both clear and tinted lenses to shoot.
I spend a little time on an internet search engine trying to do this on-line. It seems that this service is readily available from Oakley dealers in England but I have yet to see anyone offer this in the US. The websites from England specifically mention that they can not ship to the US because of their Oakley licensiing agreement or something to that effect.
Skunk, do you know of a place that sells Oakley frames and will install real Oakley lenses ground to your perscription ?
I decided to buy a set of Oakley perscription sunglasses after hearing some stuff from Pat Rogers about them. I was looking at their website and also decided that I liked some of their frames for clear lenses also. However, I don't know where to get them. I called Oakley and they told me to go to their local retail store. I called the local retail store and asked them about it. They told me they would sell me the frames and I could then take them to my eye doctor to have the perscription lenses made. I called my eye doctor and was told that they would not have real Oakley lenses in them since they were not an Oakley dealer.
I am not really certain that this matters, but one of the main reasons I wanted to buy these was for the "safety" properties of their lenses. I work as a fireman and appreciate the eye protection without having to wear goggles and when I am not wearing my helmet that has a flip down face shield. I also wear both clear and tinted lenses to shoot.
I spend a little time on an internet search engine trying to do this on-line. It seems that this service is readily available from Oakley dealers in England but I have yet to see anyone offer this in the US. The websites from England specifically mention that they can not ship to the US because of their Oakley licensiing agreement or something to that effect.
Schuey2002
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Yeah, Good Ruck, Skunk..
BerettaNut92
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444, a while ago I was under the impression Oakley wouldn't do it. I called about having them do another pair of glasses and it seemed like they would but didn't pursue it as I was going to do my LASIK and my frames are discontinued (damn them and their lack of carbon fiber in their 2004 line!). if you called a while ago, I'd give them another call as it seems something changed and they're willing to do it now? They are about 4 freeway exits from me...kind of a cool facility.
*sniff*
I'm skeered.
Um. I mean. Highspeed Lowdr~choke~ *gulp*
*sniff*
I'm skeered.
Um. I mean. Highspeed Lowdr~choke~ *gulp*
Relax. Don't worry. Everything will be OK.
I know probably 50 people that have had this done and everyone of them said it was no big deal. They said it only takes a few minutes. That night you will be on this board telling us how happy you were that you had it done.
I called Oakley about this just a couple weeks ago. I guess I need to get more aggressive on this. My current glasses have a big abrasion right over my left eye. My sunglasses are OK but I would like to replace them both.
I know probably 50 people that have had this done and everyone of them said it was no big deal. They said it only takes a few minutes. That night you will be on this board telling us how happy you were that you had it done.
I called Oakley about this just a couple weeks ago. I guess I need to get more aggressive on this. My current glasses have a big abrasion right over my left eye. My sunglasses are OK but I would like to replace them both.
fjolnirsson
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Skunk,
No worries, man. By the time you start getting REALLY nervous, it'll be over....
Seriously, it's a freaky view while it's being done, and a little frightening.
But over quickly, and well worth it.
No worries, man. By the time you start getting REALLY nervous, it'll be over....
Seriously, it's a freaky view while it's being done, and a little frightening.
But over quickly, and well worth it.
Good luck Skunk!
I'm still dyin' over your "Cru Crux Cran" comment, my side hurts I had LASIK about 31/2 years ago, flew to Portland from Alaska to have it done by one of the best, or at least way better than anyone in AK. (Dr. Mathers, Casey Eye Institute.) I think if one were to sort out the bad war stories by quality of Doctor/ clinic / quality of laser, and even price the incidents of complications at the quality joints would be extremely low.
Now you can buy any carbon fiber oakleys without a precription...just like "normal" people. I now forget that I ever wore glasses (including my share of BCGs!)
I'm still dyin' over your "Cru Crux Cran" comment, my side hurts
I had LASIK about 31/2 years ago, flew to Portland from Alaska to have it done by one of the best, or at least way better than anyone in AK. (Dr. Mathers, Casey Eye Institute.) I think if one were to sort out the bad war stories by quality of Doctor/ clinic / quality of laser, and even price the incidents of complications at the quality joints would be extremely low. Now you can buy any carbon fiber oakleys without a precription...just like "normal" people. I now forget that I ever wore glasses (including my share of BCGs!)
Frohickey
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Woah. USMC, eh? You are going to get ribbed at Basic about not eating enough.
As long as its correctable with glasses, you should be good to go.
When I went through Basic, they issued you two birth control glasses. You should get those eyeglass bands just so your glasses do not pop out of your ears when you do the various running, jumping, hitting the dirt with a full combat pack, etc.
I was also issued a set of corrective lens inserts for use inside of the M17 Gas mask. This one you have to make sure you keep, as they are hard to come by. I still wish that I had mine, but I left it inside of the M17 Gas mask, and turned it in to the quartermaster. Big mistake.
Or, you can just get laser eye surgery. Eyeglasses do fog up when you wear the kevlar, and it sucks having to rifle qual with glasses that fog up.
As long as its correctable with glasses, you should be good to go.
When I went through Basic, they issued you two birth control glasses. You should get those eyeglass bands just so your glasses do not pop out of your ears when you do the various running, jumping, hitting the dirt with a full combat pack, etc.
I was also issued a set of corrective lens inserts for use inside of the M17 Gas mask. This one you have to make sure you keep, as they are hard to come by. I still wish that I had mine, but I left it inside of the M17 Gas mask, and turned it in to the quartermaster. Big mistake.
Or, you can just get laser eye surgery. Eyeglasses do fog up when you wear the kevlar, and it sucks having to rifle qual with glasses that fog up.
The_Antibubba
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I been Lazered!
Skunkabilly,
I thought you might want to hear from one of the 1% who heals differently.
First had the LASIK last July. I found the top of the line place (Pacific Laser Eye Care)
in Sacramento. The newest upgrade is called Wavefront. It doesn't just correct to your prescription, it makes a LADAR map of the surface of the cornea, like mapping the surface of Venus, so astigmatism can be corrected as well. Some lucky ducks are coming out with 20/10 and 20/8 vision! <---(future Marine Sniper?) The total cost me $2495, for ONE eye (left eye is near-perfect, right eye was 20/500; most glasses and all contacts were out of the picture for me, since the greater the correction, the smaller the image projected onto the retina. The brain tries to reconcile what appears to be two different images. MIGRAINE CITY.
) All followup work and corrections, etc. are covered in that.
So, within 2 weeks, my epithelial (the protective layer over the cornea) develops striae (folds and wrinkles) which cause distortions in my vision, similar to astigmatisms. I go back in for a refloat-the surgeons lift up the epithelial again, swell it with saline to remove the striae, clean out from underneath, and lay it back down.
This time, it goes a lot better. I end up with a very small striae, but my vision is not too bad. However, it takes me a long time to heal from this. Reading and driving are very tiring, because my right eye, which, up to now couldn't focus on anything farther away than 2 feet, now is "learning" to focus like the other eye. And I've got a lot of starburst-type light smearing at night.
But I'm not done yet. The experts say to expect full healing to take as long as six months. My time goes by, the swelling disappears, and my right eye begins to coordinate with the left. But I have an unexpected problem. It seems I was overcorrected, and I am slightly farsighted in my right eye! I can live with it, or try it again.
Well jeez, it's paid for, why settle now, right? So, last month I go back to the clinic and get LASIKed again. Not a common happening, but certainly not unheard of. I'm back the week after, with-YOU GUESSED IT!-striae!! Just-released research suggests that striae formation might be avoided by sleeping on one's back (I'm a side sleeper), so I try that when I get home, fresh from another lift and refloat (I'd been on that table so many times now I didn't get sedated-no Valiums-so I could drive myself home. Trust me-Get the Valiums! )
I'm now three weeks out from refloat, and things are finally healing nicely. My vision is now a "dirty" 20/20. the swelling and pain are much less. I still have dry eye and irritation, and the light source starbursts are still with me. In five months I'll know if it's a keeper.
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All of that probably sounds awful, but if I knew what I know now before I started all this, I still would have done it. Here's why.
1. I DON"T NEED GLASSES TO SEE!!!!! Speaks for itself.
2. I have peripheral vision, in focus. All glasses wearers know, if you don't see it through the lens, you can't see it. This may be an even better gain than the clear vision. I have a better awareness of my surroundings.
3. I can finally wear sunglasses that aren't prescription-cuz the right shades can make you look really cool.
Some downsides to consider.
1. Being really nearsighted, I could see great detail in things I pulled right up to my eye. Tiny parts, splinters, diamond grading-it was like having a built-in loupe. it was great when dealing with gun parts. That's gone now. I'll have to get a magnifying lens like everyone else.
2. The light-source distortion may never completely go away, no matter how many times I can have this done. I miss seeing the stars as clear points .
If you have any questions, post them, or PM me. I'll be glad to help you. As I'm almost 40, and you're a young pup, your ability to heal is probably a LOT better than mine. Chances are, your LASIK will be uneventful. It is incredible to get off the operating table and walk out the door, five minutes later, with the world in focus.
Just don't cheap it out! You're not buying underwear at Wal-mart. Get the very best you can-most of them have financing available, if you need it.
Skunkabilly,
I thought you might want to hear from one of the 1% who heals differently.
First had the LASIK last July. I found the top of the line place (Pacific Laser Eye Care)
in Sacramento. The newest upgrade is called Wavefront. It doesn't just correct to your prescription, it makes a LADAR map of the surface of the cornea, like mapping the surface of Venus, so astigmatism can be corrected as well. Some lucky ducks are coming out with 20/10 and 20/8 vision! <---(future Marine Sniper?) The total cost me $2495, for ONE eye (left eye is near-perfect, right eye was 20/500; most glasses and all contacts were out of the picture for me, since the greater the correction, the smaller the image projected onto the retina. The brain tries to reconcile what appears to be two different images. MIGRAINE CITY.
) All followup work and corrections, etc. are covered in that.So, within 2 weeks, my epithelial (the protective layer over the cornea) develops striae (folds and wrinkles) which cause distortions in my vision, similar to astigmatisms. I go back in for a refloat-the surgeons lift up the epithelial again, swell it with saline to remove the striae, clean out from underneath, and lay it back down.
This time, it goes a lot better. I end up with a very small striae, but my vision is not too bad. However, it takes me a long time to heal from this. Reading and driving are very tiring, because my right eye, which, up to now couldn't focus on anything farther away than 2 feet, now is "learning" to focus like the other eye. And I've got a lot of starburst-type light smearing at night.
But I'm not done yet. The experts say to expect full healing to take as long as six months. My time goes by, the swelling disappears, and my right eye begins to coordinate with the left. But I have an unexpected problem. It seems I was overcorrected, and I am slightly farsighted in my right eye! I can live with it, or try it again.
Well jeez, it's paid for, why settle now, right?
So, last month I go back to the clinic and get LASIKed again. Not a common happening, but certainly not unheard of. I'm back the week after, with-YOU GUESSED IT!-striae!! Just-released research suggests that striae formation might be avoided by sleeping on one's back (I'm a side sleeper), so I try that when I get home, fresh from another lift and refloat (I'd been on that table so many times now I didn't get sedated-no Valiums-so I could drive myself home. Trust me-Get the Valiums! )I'm now three weeks out from refloat, and things are finally healing nicely. My vision is now a "dirty" 20/20. the swelling and pain are much less. I still have dry eye and irritation, and the light source starbursts are still with me. In five months I'll know if it's a keeper.
----------------------------
All of that probably sounds awful, but if I knew what I know now before I started all this, I still would have done it. Here's why.
1. I DON"T NEED GLASSES TO SEE!!!!! Speaks for itself.
2. I have peripheral vision, in focus. All glasses wearers know, if you don't see it through the lens, you can't see it. This may be an even better gain than the clear vision. I have a better awareness of my surroundings.
3. I can finally wear sunglasses that aren't prescription-cuz the right shades can make you look really cool.
Some downsides to consider.
1. Being really nearsighted, I could see great detail in things I pulled right up to my eye. Tiny parts, splinters, diamond grading
-it was like having a built-in loupe. it was great when dealing with gun parts. That's gone now. I'll have to get a magnifying lens like everyone else.2. The light-source distortion may never completely go away, no matter how many times I can have this done. I miss seeing the stars as clear points
.If you have any questions, post them, or PM me. I'll be glad to help you. As I'm almost 40, and you're a young pup, your ability to heal is probably a LOT better than mine. Chances are, your LASIK will be uneventful. It is incredible to get off the operating table and walk out the door, five minutes later, with the world in focus.
Just don't cheap it out! You're not buying underwear at Wal-mart. Get the very best you can-most of them have financing available, if you need it.
Schuey2002
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*bump*
Are we gonna get an update??
Are we gonna get an update??
The_Antibubba
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Update
Don't know if you were talking to me, but...
I saw the surgeon today. He wants to take a conservative approach, and not relift the flap if he doesn't have to (*WHEW*). The healing continues to go well. The problem with the glare is not resolved. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell exactly which part of the eye is the source of the distortion. It could be the cornea, which another laser zap might[/] correct. It could be the epithelial flap, which is not itself fixable. the flap is healing well with no striae within the field of vision, but, if it is lifted to correct the cornea, then all that could change. Think "Schoedinger's Eyeball"
I'll see him again in a month. I'll tell you more then.
Don't know if you were talking to me, but...
I saw the surgeon today. He wants to take a conservative approach, and not relift the flap if he doesn't have to (*WHEW*). The healing continues to go well. The problem with the glare is not resolved. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell exactly which part of the eye is the source of the distortion. It could be the cornea, which another laser zap might[/] correct. It could be the epithelial flap, which is not itself fixable. the flap is healing well with no striae within the field of vision, but, if it is lifted to correct the cornea, then all that could change. Think "Schoedinger's Eyeball"
I'll see him again in a month. I'll tell you more then.
BerettaNut92
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Revelation. My shower is really dirty
I'm at 20/20. Life is good
I'm at 20/20. Life is good
Congratulations!
I was at my mother's house tonight and she'd found my giant coke bottle glasses fixed with the paper clip from when I was twelve, and after that I really need to believe in the laser. Glad to hear you're happy with it!
I was at my mother's house tonight and she'd found my giant coke bottle glasses fixed with the paper clip from when I was twelve, and after that I really need to believe in the laser. Glad to hear you're happy with it!
entropy
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Skunks impending doom..er, enlistment!
Good to hear the lasik went well, Skunk! Now about your carbon fiber build....DROP AND GIVE ME TWENTY .... start on them now, it'll put some meat on your bones and give you one less thing to worry about during a time when you'll have plenty to worry about!
I'm not sure how Uncle Sam's Monkey Club handles it, but ...[R. Lee Ermey mode ON] if you survive boot camp, you will be a minister of death, praying for war... ..[/R. Lee Ermey mode OFF] , I kinda see you going Infantry right off, and pushing for (what else but) Force Recon until you get it. I got a chance to train with some Force Recon guys at the MOUT (Military Operations on Urban Terrain) course at Ft. (planet) Ord, where I was stationed. (Yes, I was Army
) They get plenty of trigger time, with all the best toys! (MP5SD's in this case.
!) They are hard core!
Don't worry about the loss of night vision that much.....that's why they issue PVS7's/14's! And hey, keep the stalking wild game abilities sharp...duck tastes alot better than MRE's! Carry on, my wayward son...and good luck in The Corps! (Ya better keep posting, we'll understand if you take a break for basic!)
In Tacticalness,
Entropy
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86-89
Good to hear the lasik went well, Skunk!
Now about your carbon fiber build....DROP AND GIVE ME TWENTY .... start on them now, it'll put some meat on your bones and give you one less thing to worry about during a time when you'll have plenty to worry about! I'm not sure how Uncle Sam's Monkey Club handles it, but ...[R. Lee Ermey mode ON] if you survive boot camp, you will be a minister of death, praying for war... ..[/R. Lee Ermey mode OFF] , I kinda see you going Infantry right off, and pushing for (what else but) Force Recon until you get it. I got a chance to train with some Force Recon guys at the MOUT (Military Operations on Urban Terrain) course at Ft. (planet) Ord, where I was stationed. (Yes, I was Army
!) They are hard core!Don't worry about the loss of night vision that much.....that's why they issue PVS7's/14's!
And hey, keep the stalking wild game abilities sharp...duck tastes alot better than MRE's! Carry on, my wayward son...and good luck in The Corps! (Ya better keep posting, we'll understand if you take a break for basic!)In Tacticalness,
Entropy
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So now you have to be able to SEE to be a MARINE???
My uncle was blind in one eye and got in.....
Ok...he didn't actually TELL anyone he was blind in one eye....
Since he passed the eye exam it is possible they did not notice.
And he was a hell of a football player....
Ah...the good old days!
My uncle was blind in one eye and got in.....
Ok...he didn't actually TELL anyone he was blind in one eye....
Since he passed the eye exam it is possible they did not notice.
And he was a hell of a football player....
Ah...the good old days!
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