The Way of the Gun

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ronin and heat are also great.. but anything with robert deniro usually is..

He's always closing his eyes...

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Anyone agree with me that this is about the ONLY "gun" movie with any credability?

It's a fun flick, but if you mean realism it's not the best. The big bad mobster at the end and his buddies make an assault on a hacienda with snub-nosed revolvers.

The only truly realistic films in a firearm-related sense I've seen have been European war movies and a couple of horror movies. Virtually every action film that gets filtered through Sillywood has some absurdities included. There are a few exceptions, such as "Heat," and that's only because the director insisted on accuracy.

ronin and heat are also great..

Ronin gets bad marks for the idiotic "teflon bullet" nonsense and some really over-the-top scenes during the chase. Still a fun movie, though.

Enemy at the Gates.

Fun movie, but again a little over the top in sniper accuracy and with a lot of romance thrown in. As eastern front war movies go, "Talvisota" is a much better film. "Band of Brothers" was inspired by it. There's no boo-rah or flag waving nonsense, it's just told straight up. The Mosins and Maxims do what they do, without fancy camera tricks or CGI.
 
It's a fun flick, but if you mean realism it's not the best. The big bad mobster at the end and his buddies make an assault on a hacienda with snub-nosed revolvers.

That was the point of it. They were bagmen, that's what they carry. Notice, also how they were all dressed blandly and in neutral colors. Shotguns, snubs and Member's Only jackets are in the bagman TO&E.

Sarno set them up, they were the only guys who knew him and would come to look for him. He wanted to grab the cash and run but he didn't want anyone to follow him. So he put them in a position to get killed. They should have known better than to trust a bagman.
 
the gun handling by those two thugs is extremely professional. I hear they spent some money and had a couple marines trained in house clearing develope those scenes.

However, the extreme proficiency in gun handling didn't match the characters, a couple of do nothing punks who get money by visiting the local sperm bank?

I think guns should be part of the costume of a character, and gun handling should be the same. Don't give every character a Deagle just because it looks good, but in the same vein, don't give everyone a customized kimber 1911 either. A street thug should be carrying a black plastic 9, and shooting it sideways. We all know it is ineffective, but it fits. A poor guy who whips out a gun should be producing an old beat up snub nose revolver, not a glock, etc etc.
 
They were down-on-their-luck gunmen. They were not supposed to be average "street punks".

Based on their skills and tactics I would say that the characters were former military or had sought out professional training as a precursor to their life of crime.
 
That's the one thing that always bothered me . .it's almost like they left out 5 minutes of the film that would've explained that . . ..maybe there'll be a "directors cut" version that will come out and explain that discrepancy. :)
 
The big bad mobster at the end and his buddies make an assault on a hacienda with snub-nosed revolvers.

That's the point, the body guards carry their plastic wonderguns, the kidnappers have 1911s, and the old bagmen have snubbies. That's where the 'way of the gun' name comes from.

It's still a movie, with 'artsy' scenes and influences. If I want a documentary I'll watch the History Channel.:D
 
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