GTSteve03
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Yep, ever since the invasion I haven't heard anything about Islamic terrorists in:
-Palestine
-Afghanistan
-Somalia
-Indonesia
-oh yeah, and Florida
Way to go with that consolidation plan!
These aren't the WMD you were looking for......
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-Palestine
-Afghanistan
-Somalia
-Indonesia
-oh yeah, and Florida
Way to go with that consolidation plan!
GTSteve03
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There's so many things wrong with this comparison I don't know where to begin.
Fighting was already going on in France, Belgium and other parts of Europe as they had been attacked/subjugated by Germany.
Our plans eventually entailed invading all the places you listed. I don't see us planning on invading all the places I listed, but knowing George the Younger, I wouldn't put it past him.
Oh yeah, and our strategy in WWII wasn't to invade North Africa in hopes of all the Nazis leaving Europe to attack us.
Thin Black Line
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A garrison and a colony are two different things. I certainly did not bring
up a permanent colony in Iraq. I guess, though, we'll have to see how
many US civilians are still working in Iraq a few years from now. How many
does it take to make a "colony"? 800? 8,000? 80,000?
Maybe it takes millions since 13,000,000 illegal foreigners in this country
don't seem to count as a colony....Calling Fortress America? Hello? (Knock-
knock) Who left the door open to the Fort so foreign colonies could start in
my back yard while I was staffing "our" garrison in Iraq?
Now THAT situation is ABSURD.
The pertinent issue here is Iraq and the justification to the American people
for its invasion. Many people feel our involvement was completely justified
in regards to Afghanistan since it could be stated that the Taleban were
shielding OBL. These were two different countries/situations and they
should not be lumped together. This isn't even akin to the alliance of
Nazi Germany and Japan back in WWII. But, if we want to go after where
the 911 terrorists and their financiers were, then we should have gone south
from Kuwait rather than north, right?
We had a blank check when it came to dealing with Afghanistan post 911, but we've more than overdrawn on that account due to Iraq. We've
literally p'ed it away in the sand. Now anytime WMDs come up in another
country it has the effect of the little boy crying "wolf" every night.
My point wasn't the 'alliance' it was, that was a global/world wide fight and that the smart play in the long term of the big picture isn't always the most popular or make the most sense at first.
Going into SA after 911, I won't hijack the thread, except to say I believe the judgment was made that SA could be taken care of in other ways.
We could have put more into Afghanistan but they do have elected central government, weak but getting better slowly, AF is a moderate Muslim government that is on good terms with Pakistan, which helps Mousharif (sp) with the moderates in his country against the Radicals.
We have troops on both borders of Iran, and don't think a day goes by that they don't know it.
This is an extremely complicated global chess game with fighting when needed.
President Bush's record has not been prefect, but when I some of these statements by the 'I hate Bush, he's an idiot' crowd its just cracks me up.
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TCB in TN
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We do agree on one thing.
TBL, I am with you on the 10+ million illegals in the US, but as for the whole
"We had a blank check when it came to dealing with Afghanistan post 911, but we've more than overdrawn on that account due to Iraq. We've
literally p'ed it away in the sand. Now anytime WMDs come up in another
country it has the effect of the little boy crying "wolf" every night."
The only reason that is an issue is the media's willingness to forget Clinton's intellegence reports and the statements of the UN's leadership. The UN acknowledged that WMDs were in Iraq, but the Leftists and Liberals cannot remember that and point only to Bush's lies. In fact the UN spoke and spoke about the danger to the whole world, that was posed by Iraq, and yet did nothing. So the only people with whom we have lost credability, are those who are either to ignorant to be informed about the truth or who have lost the right to have an opinion to begin with.
:banghead:
TBL, I am with you on the 10+ million illegals in the US, but as for the whole
"We had a blank check when it came to dealing with Afghanistan post 911, but we've more than overdrawn on that account due to Iraq. We've
literally p'ed it away in the sand. Now anytime WMDs come up in another
country it has the effect of the little boy crying "wolf" every night."
The only reason that is an issue is the media's willingness to forget Clinton's intellegence reports and the statements of the UN's leadership. The UN acknowledged that WMDs were in Iraq, but the Leftists and Liberals cannot remember that and point only to Bush's lies. In fact the UN spoke and spoke about the danger to the whole world, that was posed by Iraq, and yet did nothing. So the only people with whom we have lost credability, are those who are either to ignorant to be informed about the truth or who have lost the right to have an opinion to begin with.
:banghead:
Ryder
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Why do I keep hearing that more than 3000 americans were killed on 9-11? Isn't that a falsehood? Weren't most of those killed that day inside the WTC and weren't the majority of those foreigners?
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carebear
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The World Trade Center wasn't the UN, it was just a commercial office building.
Almost everyone who worked in it and the surroundings were American citizen office types.
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