these TV cop shows are ridiculous

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+1 on the A&E documentaries Cold Case Files and The Firest 48. I'd rather see the thought process of solving a crime, somewhat like a puzzle, than see fashion models in a H2, or senseless violence.

On the flipside, I'm also bored to tears by the Agatha Christie spin-offs that also seen to appear on A&E.

However, nothing will ever top the Korn Groovy Pirate Halloween Mystery episode of South Park (where's my bong?).
 
Reference elrod's Post #40: I've read that on voir dire, prospective jurors are now asked if they watch cop shows, and believe that what they've seen of investigative techniques would affect their judgement.

Art
 
The only cop shows I watch are CSI (the original) and Law and Order. I know they're unrealistic, but so what. Its fiction. If it were anything close to the truth, it would be too boring to watch.

There are some that do go way over the top, though. CSI: Miami and CSI: New York are pretty good examples. A good work of fiction needs to be able to allow its viewers to suspend their disbelief, but those two are so completely over the top its impossible, at least for me.
 
TV cop shows

The first couple years of both "Adam 12" and "Hill Street Blues" were very good. After that, the quality declined somewhat as they ran out of story ideas.

I enjoy watching COPS, but often wonder about some of the things I see. Of course, the show is heavily edited to make it more entertaining, but I often see officers on there who appear to have (1.) No concept of the law of arrest or search & seizure, and (2.) No concept of tactics.

"Reno 911" is more realistic than I'd want to admit -- I work with a female who is a dumber, trashier version of Clemmy Johnson . . . .
 
Art Wrote:Reference elrod's Post #40: I've read that on voir dire, prospective jurors are now asked if they watch cop shows, and believe that what they've seen of investigative techniques would affect their judgement.

Art
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Yep.
Happened to me more than once, and this was a few years ago.
I have sat in to view a trial, and seen this occur since.

As Foreman of the Jury, or just member of a jury I have reminded folks of our duty, our instructions, and the evidence we have to work with.
I added WE, ourselves if ever being judged by 12 of our peers, need to keep this in mind as well.

I've been on a jury Sequestered , and we were not allowed newspapers , TV, or Movies with anything about the case, nor anything related to investigations, court, and the like.

I've also been on a jury, that decided to stay and continue the case, instead of being sequestered, or having to come back on a Sat.
Serious cases, special circumstances.
One time we started at 7 am, and did not go home until 1pm the next day.

Don't recall TeeVee showing a case like that...
 
Yeah,as someone said..they always confess on these shows..even NYPD blue,that Iloved,eventually it was like"ok just get Andy in there and the guy will give it up."In real life bad guys NEVER admit anything......in these shows it's like they're waiting to spill it....Law and Order CI is the best at this.Where were these cops when OJ was arrested?:uhoh:
 
My wife love s those murder shows, my sons love Cops, etc. They ask why I can't stand them. "Well, I've been to a lot of autopsies and never once saw one conducted in a dark room where the ME talks to the body." (CSI) "They never would show the work I do or folks I deal with. They're HUMAN" (COPS) "NO ONE HAS EVER CONFESSED ON THE WITNESS STAND!!!" (Perry Mason, Law and Order, etc. etc. ad nauseum).
 
I saw one episode of COPS i think it was. Two idiot cops had a suspect with a gun and were talking to/interrogating him after they got ahold of his gun. I saw that it was a Springfield XD in a holster. The cops called it a Glock, then wasted the guy's time because he had a permit to carry it and they didn't have squat on him to take him in. They fumbled with his gun and played with the bullets and were making it such a big deal when it wasn't. They were idiots..

Entertaining, nonetheless.
 
Art,

That is one of my wife's first questions when selecting a jury. If the jurist will be "upset" if the miraculous piece of evidence isn't produced at trial aka Law and Order, or is seems like there is no evidence compared to CSI. It ususually works to bring them into reality a little bit. However, the cynic that I am can't help but think they are still somewhat jaded.
 
Fortycalglock,

I don't believe your cynicism is unwaranted. Most of America basks in TV's warm glow from 5-10:00 every night and it is clearly making a prescence in the courtroom.
 
Oh,I don't know,don't trash all cop shows because they seem to be unrealistic,etc,etc.Here are screenshots of my two favourite cop shows to date,even if they are between 25 to 32 years old.The Professionals and the Sweeney:I would recommend them to an American audience,any day.The Professionals are our version of Miami Vice,but released earlier.
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Of these two shows the Sweeney was more realistic and had stronger language,but the Professionals had a cool array of weaponry.Just look at Martin Shaw,holding the Steyr Aug assault rifle,in a 1980 episode.It's good to see a show that was unpolitically-correct,in it's approach.They have all stood the test of time and had helped launched the early careers of Martin Shaw,Dennis Waterman and the young-looking John Thaw.

The Sweeney is not really a family viewing show,because it has strong language and violence in it and John Thaw isn't posh either.This show is as serious as NYPD Blue,Dirty Harry films and The Sheild.However some episodes are fairly mild so they are classed as 12 and 12A.John Thaws character,Detective Inspector Regan is as tough and as serious as Harry Callahan and is a constant rule-bender,but not a corrupt cop.

On the flipside, I'm also bored to tears by the Agatha Christie spin-offs that also seen to appear on A&E.
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You should be getting these programes soon,from what I have read and 'The Bill' tv series too.The first one from 1983 and the pilot 'Woodentop'.
 
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I like the shows about real life criminals... True Crime Authors, etc etc
A note- ER was created by Michae Chrichton, who has had medical training.
But these days, if you want a good doctor show, watch House.
Entertaining, and (fairly) medically accurate.
Anybody here watch Hustle on amc? Its a show about a team of grifters in London. Great show.
 
I can't stand the horrible handling of firearms by actors who have never handled a gun before in their lives. Plus, the bad rolliing, and stupid almost dancelike moves the directors make the actors do on films.
 
I like the old Law and Order episodes, but the most recent to keep me interested was DaVinci's Inquest
That show is politics. I can count the number of times on one hand that you actually see a gun in a season. Dialogue and plot go a lot further in entertainment than using shoot outs to wrap up a plot in a 1 hour time slot.

BTW: I used to watch C15 as a kid which is a lot like the Professionals
 
I think Reno 911 is the most best cop show on the air. A lot of the cops I know would fit right in there.
 
I stick with Cops, when a guy is bleeding from the head pointing at a guy with a bloody shovel saying, "That fu$#%r hit me in the fu&*(ng head with a shovel," and the other guy just stands there and says, "Nope, I didn't hit him with no shovel." Much more entertaining then these increasingly bizarre cases on police crime dramas or whatever they call it these days.
 
Did anyone see an episode of Numb3rs from 2 seasons ago called Guns And Roses? The good guys were trying to take down a crew that were knocking over an armored car, It had a pretty impressive, full auto running gun battle in the streets, obviously inspired by Heat, the cops rolled up on the bad guys and engaged them with flattop M4s fitted with optical sights and foregrips, the robbers had AKs and a short barreled AR.
 
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Anybody here watch Hustle on amc? Its a show about a team of grifters in London. Great show.
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Yes,I do and it features the British tv actor,Billy Murray's daughter in it.She is quite hot,if I may say so and more refined than her old man.I's a shame that the cops are called the London Police Department and Greater London Police Department.It would have been more realistic if they called them The City of London Police and The Metropolitan Police.

Billy Murray has been in Eastenders and played the crooked cop, Detective Sergent Donald Beech,in The Bill-who was jailed,broken-out and is on the run,from the cops.
 
Kill your TV.

Seriously, I don't know how anyone watches television anymore. I have a TV strictly for watching the occasional DVD. And every once in a blue moon, I'll watch the news or something, but we don't have cable, just an antenna.
 
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