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Sporting Air Rifles - a legal and environmental disaster
Garth Cambray

The pellet gun, a glorified pee shooter has gained popularity in South Africa in the last four or so years due to the modifications recently made to the Firearms Act, which allow such a weapon to be purchased without a licence.

An airgun is a quirky weapon. Even although it is classified as an airgun, most high powered pellet guns are actually firearms due to the explosion of oils in their chambers that may contribute up to 45% of total power. In this regard, the article argues that current legislation poses a threat to the environment and humans.

Air rifles are loosely divided into two categories, target rifles and sporting rifles. Target rifles have to propel a pellet from the shooter to the target in an accurate and efficient manner. They do not require incredible speed or power. Sporting air rifles on the other hand are constructed for purposes including, but not limited to, target practise and hence generally produce faster moving pellets which consequently have more power. This article deals with sporting air rifles.

In any object which expels a projectile the projectile is subject to the laws of gravity which causes a downward acceleration of the projectile. If the projectile is fired parallel to the ground, this effect causes the typical downward curved trajectory. The faster an object travels the flatter its trajectory is - if something travels a great distance in a short time gravity has little chance to act. Other factors such as atmospheric drag are also important. A lighter object will slow down faster than a heavier one, and hence a fast moving light object may initially have a flat trajectory, but as it slows, its trajectory will become more and more curved.

In a conventional firearm, a fast burning chemical mixture generates an increase in the gas volume in a closed area (the cartridge). This results in the cartridge separating into two pieces with the bullet driven down the barrel of the firearm and expelled at great velocity. The barrel can be rifled (i.e. it has a spiral groove carved into it) and this rifling causes the projectile to spin, increasing its accuracy. Such a firearm is called a rifle.

In an air rifle the projectile is supposedly driven down the rifling of the barrel by a source of gas other than that provided by a fast burning mixture. These gas sources range from bottled gas in a tank, to spring or compressed gas pistons. The next two types use a piston which is compressed by a lever. The piston is either driven by a spring or compressed air trapped behind it (a bit like the gas-lifts in some motor vehicles which hold the boot open.) And this is where it gets tricky.

In a diesel engine a fuel air mixture is injected into a cylinder where it is compressed by a piston. The compression action reaches a point at which the diesel fuel explodes and drives the piston through its cycle. In modern sporting air rifles the compression generated in the chamber of the air rifle is sufficient to cause small amounts of oil to combust with the compressed air oil mixture acting similarly to that of the fuel in a diesel engine. This causes at least a 45% increase in the exit velocity of the pellet from the rifle. This increase in velocity in turn allows an air-gun to approach muzzle velocities of close to, or above the speed of sound. At these speeds the power of a pellet may be four times that of a pellet travelling at half its speed.

A demonstration of this effect is simple for any air rifle enthusiast. Take your air gun and fire it at a target 50 times to clear up residual oil in the chamber. Sight the rifle so that it shoots on target at 20 metres. Mark where the pellets penetrate the target. Spray a small amount of light oil into the oiling points of the rifle, or even into the compression chamber (not recommended, but quite spectacular) and once again shoot another 20 shots at the target. The first few shots are spectacularly more powerful and shoot much higher on the target, and as the oil residues are used up, the power of the rifle decreases and the impact points approach those of the old pre-oiling impact points. You will also note with the first few shots you get a cloud of smoke, and if you do this at night you get a light orange muzzle flash.

In old fashioned air rifles muzzle velocities seldom exceeded 2/3 the speed of sound. Power was limited to that needed to make a hole in a cool drink can at 10 metres. If heavy pellets were used, this resulted in extremely slow moving projectiles which had a very rounded trajectory. Most pellets also began to tumble at 30-40m and hence rapidly dissipated energy. As a result, most people used very light pellets which had initial flat trajectories due to their reasonably high speed. These pellets had little inertia and hence were rapidly slowed down by the air and if they were able to make a hole in a tin can at 10 metres, were probably hardly able to make a dent in it at 30 metres.

The new breed of high power sport rifles on the other hand require using heavier pellets. Light pellets travelling at high velocities are subject to aerodynamic forces which cause them to become inaccurate and tumble. Heavier pellets however do not have these problems.

At this point we return to the diesel engine. The greater the compression of a diesel engine, the greater its power. This is what makes the difference between the diesel guzzling 40kw 1970's tractor engine and the race winning 200kw turbo-charged high compression diesel engines of today which use the same amount of fuel but have much greater power. If we look at a high powered air rifle with a heavy pellet the compression behind the pellet is enormous. If a large amount of oil is present in the compression chamber a powerful explosion occurs, which increases the power of that pellet gun to the point where more than 50% of its muzzle velocity is derived from fire, not air driven by a spring.

These high powered air rifles pose a serious threat to South Africa. As a responsible air rifle owner it is deeply disturbing that 15 year old would be able to purchase, with a helpful adult, a rifle which can kill a person, a cat, a dog, wild animals and can even maim things like cattle, donkeys, kudu in such a way that they will eventually die.

To put this into financial and scientific perspective. For an over 21 adult to purchase a firearm such as a .22 long rifle extensive applications would be made to the government, a minimum of R2000 would be spent on the rifle, a few hundred Rands would be spent on the licence and on a rifle users fitness test. The owner would also have to have a safe in their home (about R1000), which has to be inspected by the local police inspector. The rifle will fire ammunition which costs in the region of 30 cents per shot and this ammunition can kill for up to 2km. The owner also needs to sign a document which makes them personally liable for the death of somebody shot with their firearm if stolen from them under certain situations. Compare this procedure with that of obtaining a high powered sports rifle.

A 15 year old child would need between R700 and R2000 to buy a high powered sports rifle. He or she could order one from the back pages of a relevant magazine and it will be sent to a local shop for them to collect. Assuming the child's parents would not be willing to do this, a child could probably need to pay an additional R100 or so to get an adult to collect it for them. After that, they can buy ammunition by themselves. Pellets cost from 4.5-6.8 cents each. For R6, the cost of a cool drink, they can fire over 100 pellets. In some models, a heavy pellet will still have sufficient power to kill at 100m, break a window at 200m and blind somebody at 250m.

As a scientist, air rifle owner and environmentalist I believe that a level of control is needed over these new higher powered air rifles as they are dangerous weapons. In the hands of children they will cause a rapid decline in biodiversity with targets such as large birds and animals all being seen as fair game through the eyes of the youth. Due to the fact that they are indeed fire-arms deriving in excess of 45% of their maximum power from an explosion of a chemical mixture I propose that the laws controlling these more powerful models need to be reassessed, and that weaker 'children's models' be left as they are.
 
I believe that a level of control is needed......

I agree.

You need to control your kids.
You need to control your kneejerks.

I need Excedrin.

They just don't stop. What gene got dumped into the pool?

Vick
 
I think that is pretty hilarious, the innovations that air rifles have undergone in SA. I have seen some mind blowingly powerful airrifles that fired elephant capable projectiles at 45acp velocities. If you gave it two barrels that would be more than enough for any burglar.

BTW, that combusting oil theory is BS. Completely impossible. I cant even get WD40 to combust coming out of my AKs barrel.

And this confirms my opinion that africa still sucks. Badly.
 
In related news, people in Canada just proved that 'Green Gas' used in airsoft is nothing other than propane!

And, to carry it further, I read of a prototype paintball marker that uses propane and a spark-plug to initiate a controlled combustion in the chamber.

The key there is the spark-plug. And as we all know diesel's don't operate on pressure alone, that would be pretty cool, but they have glow plugs. Heat+ pressure for combustion. This schmuk expects people to believe that expanding gasses, which COOL OFF as they expand, are going to ignite some random oil?

<Grammaw had to clean up foolish language>wrote a long article, lied about the whole thing, probably about himself being a scientist and firearm owner, too.
 
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Unfortunate spelling, there...

The pellet gun, a glorified pee shooter has gained popularity in South Africa in the last four or so years due to the modifications recently made to the Firearms Act, which allow such a weapon to be purchased without a licence.

No comment. :D
 
BTW, that combusting oil theory is BS. Completely impossible. I cant even get WD40 to combust coming out of my AKs barrel.
No, it's not. Airgun forums and manufacturer's literature contain warnings about oiling the compression chamber as "dieseling" CAN occur with spring-piston airguns. (It's very hard on the airgun's seals.)
 
The side cock Chinese guns do dieseling. If you fire one in the dark you can sometimes see it. I'm sure others do as well but for comparable power they are 6x the price and you'll blow a seal. Might make the seal happy though.
 
I think what is happening is that his air rifle is sealing better when oiled. What a ****.

BTW: Glow plugs are only used to pre-heat the chambers for cold starts, and are not used once the engine starts.
 
Lucky said:
And as we all know diesel's don't operate on pressure alone, that would be pretty cool, but they have glow plugs. Heat+ pressure for combustion. This schmuk expects people to believe that expanding gasses, which COOL OFF as they expand, are going to ignite some random oil?

The glow plug in a Diesel engine is for getting it started. Once it warms up, compression alone is enough to raise the temperature in the cylinder to the ignition point.

It's not the expanding gasses in a spring air rifle that can ignite lubricating oil, it is the compressing gasses.
 
Glow plugs are for starting, they don't contribute once the engine is running, pressures are climbing and temperature is high. Which is exactly not the case inside an air gun. It is never hot enough or under enough pressure to combust oil.

Speaking of which, not all oils will combust like Diesel. In fact gasoline doesn't reliably combust under heat and pressure. WD-40 won't and I doubt that gun oil will either.

This "scientist" is merely observing the fact that the oil is making a better seal so that the compressed air can't leak past.

"Whadda maroon!"
Bugs Bunny
 
Someone needs to take his spell checker's suggestions with a grain of salt...

a glorified pee shooter

...or was it a Freudian slip by the reporter? :D

Art's grammaw should have a talk with him...
 
Spring air rifles can and do diesel. They should not, as a matter of course, do it all the time. But when they're new the oil they slather everything in tends to combust from the compression. It can do it for a considerable number of shots, too. A little's not so bad, but if you have a habit of lubing your gun's cylinder with flammable products it's bad for the seals and the cylinder walls. Using petroleum based lubes is generally bad anyway because they attack the rubber seal on the piston. Silicone is best.

When we lubed my nephew's relatively low powered Daisy 141 (which I think is a rebadged Gamo but I could be wrong) it diseled on the first shot so bad that the pellet broke the sound barrier with a startling crack and a plume of blue smoke out the barrel. The gun normally fired at 725 FPS or so with the pellets we used in it.

Designs have been floating around for ages for beefed up airguns made to diesel and obtain some of their power that way. To my knowledge, none were ever seriously produced or sold.
 
The Lewis and Clark "Did we say 1000 miles? Sorry, make that 3000 miles" expedition carried an air rifle that was bison-capable. I don't know if it was ever used.
 
And, to carry it further, I read of a prototype paintball marker that uses propane and a spark-plug to initiate a controlled combustion in the chamber.

The key there is the spark-plug. And as we all know diesel's don't operate on pressure alone, that would be pretty cool, but they have glow plugs.


Tell that to the users of firepistons.


Zero_DgZ is correct, air rifles do (but SHOULDN'T) diesel.
 
Well, I used to have a nice .177 air rifle before I gifted it to a dear friend. The thing was loud and kicky and smelled of burning oil after every shot. I buy the explanation of the better sealing, but do believe some burning still happens, especially since parts get hot. Oil may not be spontaneously combusting to produce propulsion, but it still burns.
 
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