atblis
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Yeah
I doubt she paid anything for that shotgun.
I also doubt she'll pay anything for the replacement.
I doubt she paid anything for that shotgun.
I also doubt she'll pay anything for the replacement.
Thieves Steal Olympian's Shotgun
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jakemccoy
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The Olympics don't give out cash prizes. However, the more well-known athletes receive money to the point that they're basically considered professionals. (Phelps made $5M per year in endorsements before the 2008 Olympics; his earnings after the Olympics are expected to reach $30M per year.) I don't know much about Kim Rhode, but there's a good chance she had a nice stack of bills on her. I'm fairly certain the common criminals would think so if they knew she was a gold medalist Olympian. Once a person reaches a certain status, the fact is that they just can't prance around town the same way anymore.
Richbaker
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I read in the paper that our US gold winners got $50k per medal....some other countries paid their medal winners lots more.
ETA: I was wrong....looks they only got $25k..... http://leapcomp.com/2008/08/olympics-pay-for-performance-cash-for-medals.html
ETA: I was wrong....looks they only got $25k..... http://leapcomp.com/2008/08/olympics-pay-for-performance-cash-for-medals.html
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Shotguns for a sport like trap have to fit very well. The better you are, the better that gun needs to fit. A good gun with a highly adjustable buttstock and rib will allow you to get the gun fitted perfectly. It will now shoot exactly to where you look, and you an mount it perfectly in a dark room.
I just wore out a $300 Rossi side-by side learning the basics. The firing pins are squashed and one is broken. The forestock rattles. Etc. That is after approximately 3300 shots, ~2000 in practice and 1300 "registered" shots at three matches. It took me four months to do that. That same round count would have equaled ~132 Cowboy matches at ~25 shots each, which would be about 4-6 years of Cowboy shooting.
Browning sells a Cynergy combination Trap gun with a single barrel for Singles and Handicap, and a double barrel for Doubles. The stock is adjustible, as is the rib on the single barrel. It is beautiful, and is a decent fit before I start adjusting things. I am saving my nickels because this new toy is going to set me back something like five large, plus the cost of a professional fit. I plan to shoot this quite a bit, and I do not want to have to keep buying shotguns.
http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=014B&cat_id=013&type_id=269
For more of a sticker shock, look up a Kreighoff K-80
I just wore out a $300 Rossi side-by side learning the basics. The firing pins are squashed and one is broken. The forestock rattles. Etc. That is after approximately 3300 shots, ~2000 in practice and 1300 "registered" shots at three matches. It took me four months to do that. That same round count would have equaled ~132 Cowboy matches at ~25 shots each, which would be about 4-6 years of Cowboy shooting.
Browning sells a Cynergy combination Trap gun with a single barrel for Singles and Handicap, and a double barrel for Doubles. The stock is adjustible, as is the rib on the single barrel. It is beautiful, and is a decent fit before I start adjusting things. I am saving my nickels because this new toy is going to set me back something like five large, plus the cost of a professional fit. I plan to shoot this quite a bit, and I do not want to have to keep buying shotguns.
http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=014B&cat_id=013&type_id=269
For more of a sticker shock, look up a Kreighoff K-80
.38 Special
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It wouldn't surprise me if her shotguns and ammunition are covered by sponsors. But rich people don't buy their wedding dresses at the outlet mall.
I would never, ever leave anything valuable in my car, but that's because I already learned that lesson the hard way. Ms. Rhode is young enough that she can't be expected to have learned all of those lessons yet. Too bad this one had to come so hard.
I would never, ever leave anything valuable in my car, but that's because I already learned that lesson the hard way. Ms. Rhode is young enough that she can't be expected to have learned all of those lessons yet. Too bad this one had to come so hard.
toivo
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Have you seen "Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels"?
Hmmm. There are different ways of "paying" for something.
Getting up every day before the sun rises, working out, and shooting 1,000 rounds of international trap loads might be considered paying for something. Promotion of a product, through winning four Olympic medals might be considered paying.
Winning almost everything since she was 13 (when she was the U.S. National Womens -- not junior -- skeet champion) and the tens of thousands of hours . . .
Pretty low wages, actually.
Getting up every day before the sun rises, working out, and shooting 1,000 rounds of international trap loads might be considered paying for something. Promotion of a product, through winning four Olympic medals might be considered paying.
Winning almost everything since she was 13 (when she was the U.S. National Womens -- not junior -- skeet champion) and the tens of thousands of hours . . .
Pretty low wages, actually.
CannonFodder
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Yeah, do remember that no matter how awesome her "job," is, that's how she puts food on the table.
Indeed, what the one thing everyone says about their job, no matter how good it is?
"I hate my job."
Except Gresham. His job is way better than anything else in this world.
Indeed, what the one thing everyone says about their job, no matter how good it is?
"I hate my job."
Except Gresham. His job is way better than anything else in this world.
As far as why someone would keep the gun in her truck, you also have to realize something else.
To practice Olympic shooting disciplines, there are a limited number of ranges.
American Trap and Skeet are dumbed down to make them easier for casual shooters and they are not the same as the International/Olympic versions. Seems most American shooters would rather stick with the easy stuff; once they're good, they'd rather shoot 100 straight at American Trap than really challenge themselves. So the market for the International disciplines, and hence the ranges that offer them, is limited (also a Bunker setup is more complex and requires more real estate, so International Trap may be beyond the means of a small club).
So she probably has to drive here and there, all over the place, 50 miles here, 100 miles there. I drove past the Elsinore Outlet Center on Saturday, driving 104 miles each way, just to train our dog on birds. Southern California has it all -- if you're willing to drive a lot to get to any of it...
So, at 4 bucks a gallon, driving a truck no less, she probably just wanted to drop by as she was driving past the place on the way to/from a shooting event or training. Lake Elsinore is in BFE, in the inland semi-desert hinterlands between San Diego and Riverside.
It's not like she just drives around with her Perazzi.
And Olympic shooters tend not to get rich off it, for those who think they do.
Finally, for those who don't know why someone shoots a Perazzi, all I can say is, don't try one. It's better you don't.
To practice Olympic shooting disciplines, there are a limited number of ranges.
American Trap and Skeet are dumbed down to make them easier for casual shooters and they are not the same as the International/Olympic versions. Seems most American shooters would rather stick with the easy stuff; once they're good, they'd rather shoot 100 straight at American Trap than really challenge themselves. So the market for the International disciplines, and hence the ranges that offer them, is limited (also a Bunker setup is more complex and requires more real estate, so International Trap may be beyond the means of a small club).
So she probably has to drive here and there, all over the place, 50 miles here, 100 miles there. I drove past the Elsinore Outlet Center on Saturday, driving 104 miles each way, just to train our dog on birds. Southern California has it all -- if you're willing to drive a lot to get to any of it...
So, at 4 bucks a gallon, driving a truck no less, she probably just wanted to drop by as she was driving past the place on the way to/from a shooting event or training. Lake Elsinore is in BFE, in the inland semi-desert hinterlands between San Diego and Riverside.
It's not like she just drives around with her Perazzi.
And Olympic shooters tend not to get rich off it, for those who think they do.
Finally, for those who don't know why someone shoots a Perazzi, all I can say is, don't try one. It's better you don't.
atblis
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American trap predates International Trap.
That's true. Not my point, though.
American Trap rules are made by choice, and the Olympic version has been around for a long time.
One way or another, Olympic shotgunners can't practice at many, probably most, American ranges, because the Olympic disciplines are different, and in ways that make them much more difficult.
American Trap rules are made by choice, and the Olympic version has been around for a long time.
One way or another, Olympic shotgunners can't practice at many, probably most, American ranges, because the Olympic disciplines are different, and in ways that make them much more difficult.
>>Except Gresham. His job is way better than anything else in this world.<<
Totally true. I average about 80 hours of work per week, and wouldn't change a thing.
Back to Kim, who is one of the finest people I know. There's just something wrong about folks blaming her for leaving a gun in the truck. I don't think there have been many times when I have not had a gun in the car/truck over the last two decades, and it stays in there when I'm in stores, etc.
Blaming the victim of a crime is buying into the "you deserved it" rather than holding the thief responsible. It's a part of the victimization mentality that many in government like to foster.
Totally true. I average about 80 hours of work per week, and wouldn't change a thing.
Back to Kim, who is one of the finest people I know. There's just something wrong about folks blaming her for leaving a gun in the truck. I don't think there have been many times when I have not had a gun in the car/truck over the last two decades, and it stays in there when I'm in stores, etc.
Blaming the victim of a crime is buying into the "you deserved it" rather than holding the thief responsible. It's a part of the victimization mentality that many in government like to foster.
Agreed.
And as I said, she was 100 miles from home, working probably, and passed by the Elsinore Outlet Center, as I did on Saturday. I didn't stop there, but I did stop at another store, leaving an O/U (not nearly as nice as hers, but a favorite field gun) in the car. I don't have the time or the gas money to drive home, drop off my gun, and then drive for another hour back to where I already was.
Things in Kim's world, as in mine, can be pretty far apart. You run your errands as you are able, especially with 4 buck gas.
If people can't stop busting into cars, that's THEIR moral failing, not mine. Doesn't mean I try to invite theft, but I've had my car broken into countless times, whether or not there was anything in it to steal.
Welcome to California. That's how it is. We're leaving.
But Kim's in the middle of a veterinary program here at the moment, from what I understand. (She's not the USA Shooting shotgunstress I know personally.)
Mike OTDP
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Yup.
Being a serious competitive shooter isn't a job...it's a way of life. You sacrifice a lot. It takes YEARS of patient, focused practice to get to that level. Days, evenings, weekends, vacations...you train constantly.
I'm not an Olympic competitor, but I am a member of the U.S. International Muzzle-Loading Team...and train an hour every day. More on weekends. And get to pay my own travel expenses...you don't want to know what it cost me to represent the United States at the World Championships in Australia last month.
Being a serious competitive shooter isn't a job...it's a way of life. You sacrifice a lot. It takes YEARS of patient, focused practice to get to that level. Days, evenings, weekends, vacations...you train constantly.
I'm not an Olympic competitor, but I am a member of the U.S. International Muzzle-Loading Team...and train an hour every day. More on weekends. And get to pay my own travel expenses...you don't want to know what it cost me to represent the United States at the World Championships in Australia last month.
toivo
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Only when you flush them down the toilet...
scrat
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hahahahaha good one
jakemccoy
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Nobody's blaming the victim here. If anybody here were on the jury for the trial to this case, they'd basically fall asleep until deliberations and then vote for a guilty verdict on this thug.
What may look like blame is actually people here talking about factors that may be within our control. If I reach a certain status, my behavior in public is within my control. The behavior of a thief is not directly within my control. So, kicking and screaming over how bad the bad guys are doesn't do much good for the immediate problem.
What may look like blame is actually people here talking about factors that may be within our control. If I reach a certain status, my behavior in public is within my control. The behavior of a thief is not directly within my control. So, kicking and screaming over how bad the bad guys are doesn't do much good for the immediate problem.
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Well, when my truck got broken into I didn't consider it my fault. It was obviously the fault of the person that did it.
Having said that, had I not left valuables visible in my truck, they wouldn't have been stolen. That's not assigning blame, it's simply addressing reality.
Hopefully that clears a few things up.
Having said that, had I not left valuables visible in my truck, they wouldn't have been stolen. That's not assigning blame, it's simply addressing reality.
Hopefully that clears a few things up.
VARifleman
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Totally not cool statement.
The gun is priceless to her, she won the Olympics with it...
You may not understand if you haven't won a significant competition with one of your firearms, but let me tell you...those guns are worth more than money to their owners.
I almost always have a gun locked in my car. I'm not supposed to carry at work but I live an hour away. If I didn't have anything in my car, that 2 additional hours I'm unprotected every day. And that doesn't count if I have to stop anywhere on the way to or from work. How many people leave several hundred dollars of stereo equipment in their car ALL the time?
As mentioned by others, shooting that gun is her JOB. She has to have it with her quite often. How is it any different than a contractor with thousands of dollars worth of tools in his truck? Do they drop all the tools off at home if they need to pick up some groceries on the way home?
How about a salesman with samples or a roadside mechanic?
We make choices and evaluate risks/rewards every day and sometimes we lose. We all determine what balance of risk vs convenience we can deal with and just because someone else has a different threshold doesn't make the SOB who takes advantage of them any less guilty or the victim any more responsible.
As mentioned by others, shooting that gun is her JOB. She has to have it with her quite often. How is it any different than a contractor with thousands of dollars worth of tools in his truck? Do they drop all the tools off at home if they need to pick up some groceries on the way home?
How about a salesman with samples or a roadside mechanic?
We make choices and evaluate risks/rewards every day and sometimes we lose. We all determine what balance of risk vs convenience we can deal with and just because someone else has a different threshold doesn't make the SOB who takes advantage of them any less guilty or the victim any more responsible.
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