Thinking 6.5 Creedmoor

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Toying with the idea of a long range non magnum varmint and deer rifle.

I've been looking at the 6.5 Creedmoor and it sure seems impressive! It's flat shooting and holds enough energy to make ethical kills out to 400.

The big thing too is the high BC. Here in Montana 20 mph winds are considered a light breeze. There's been many days I've shot prairie dogs at over 400 yards with 35 mph winds. That little 22-250 bullet sure drifts!

Has anyone tried one?

One article I read the guy took a one shot kill on a mulie buck at 400. So it can definitely do the trick!

I'd go to a magnum but I love shooting prairie dogs to much to just leave it at home.

I see Hornady has their Superperformance ammo and Ruger is making Hawkeyes. Also saw a long range ABolt online.

Then too I can find stuff to load this caliber but I can't for my 308 or 22-250. Granted I have powder and primers.

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Not sure, isn't it just a little faster? The two are almost neck and neck right?

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6.5 creedmore is just slightly shorter. Velocity wise 260 is a little faster but not enough to matter. It is more common though.
 
.260 because the brass is way easier to get if you use 7mm-08 or 243 or 308
 
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I'm pretty sure 6.5 creedmore was developed because it fits in ar10 mags better than 260
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Yep. The nice thing about the 6.5 is Hornady has their Superperformance. That adds 200 fps. I don't mind buying ammo to shoot a couple deer.
The 260 us just a necked down 308 right? Can it be improved?

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Takem406 said:
The 260 us just a necked down 308 right? Can it be improved?
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Sure there's a 260 Imp. You will gain a little speed and case life doing so over the plain 260 Rem. If you dont want to fireform the cases and wanted more performance you could step up to the 6.5x284 though you will be burning more powder.


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The 260 us just a necked down 308 right? Can it be improved?

Yes, but then you would be looking at a 7mm Rem Mag or a 270 Winchester.

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What??

Improved cartridges are ones that have the shoulder sharpened and the body taper is reduced, thus increasing powder capacity. Given the same pressures they will usually gain 100-150fps over the parent cartridge.
 
I have had both. I had a 6.5cm in an AR and bolt gun. Just shot the barrel out of my 260 and now it's a 6creedmoor. Bottom line either is fine, I personally like the hornady brass for the CM, performance wise is a wash.
 
I looked at the load manual for the two. They are so close it's a coin toss.

Even the 6.5x284 has almost the same ballistics. So why go to a long action?

What's more accurate I wonder?

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Takem406 said:
What's more accurate I wonder?
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In theory, the sharper shoulder on the Creedmoor will result in a more consistent powder burn. Also you can more easily load close to the lands in a short action rifle with the Creedmoor and you don't give up powder capacity by having to load long bullets way into the case to get the loaded round in the magazine.

I would not take either out to a dogtown though.
 
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In theory, the sharper shoulder on the Creedmoor will result in a more consistent powder burn. Also you can more easily load close to the lands in a short action rifle with the Creedmoor and you don't give up powder capacity by having to load long bullets way into the case to get the loaded round in the magazine.

I would not take either out to a dogtown though.
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Why not?

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Maybe if it was held only for the long shots, otherwise, you'll torch a barrel in a day. I'd actually rather have a .243 for varmints. Cheaper bullets, cheaper brass, more forgiving on range estimation essentially identical wind drift out to around 1k.
 
Oh ok. But if I primarily use my 22-250 then use a 6.5 as an alternate rifle while my 22-250 cools, I'd be ok?

Another 243 is on the dream list too! If I'm a good boy sometimes my bride let's me shoot hers! It's a lot of fun!

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For what youare doing with it the .243 would be my choice. 58gr Vmax on Pdogs and 107gr BTHP on deer and speedgoats
 
From what I've read and from talking to a couple guys that should know, you'll get a lot better barrel life from the 6.5cm or .260, compared to the .243. Between the .260 and cm, it looks like performance is close enough that it probably doesn't even need to be considered. If your rifle will feed from a mag (internal or detachable), the shorter cm will allow more flexibility in seating depth. If you don't reload, hornady makes match grade ammo at a reasonable price. For deer hunting, I would prefer a 6.5mm bullet over a 6mm (please, no one yell at me for saying that :) ).
 
Depends on loads being shot, but the diference is really not that much between the 3.
 
Not sure how a 243 load pushing a light bullet at 3900 will have a longer life than a 6.5 barrel only pushing 2900...

There aren't many options for non custom 260 rifles. Are there?

I did kind of compare the 243 and CM. Bout the same energy at 400 but I think an extra 20 grains would help with the 6.5. Especially in the wind.

Was on another forum that's competition based just poking around and the CM seems controversial. The old 308 guys call it a stupid fad and only a few others like it.

I've got a 308 and love it but it's really not known for being a laser. But oh how it puts deer down!

Though comparing Hornady Superperformance loads... The 150 gr GMX is just a couple inches lower than a 120 GMX from a 6.5.

The 308 has a little more energy at 400 but has a lower BC and SD value.

But as far as something aside from 30 or 224 cal the 6.5 is still looking good.

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Was on another forum that's competition based just poking around and the CM seems controversial. The old 308 guys call it a stupid fad and only a few others like it.
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Just before they jumped in their wagon to make the monthly trip to town... :)
 
Take a look at the Savage website. They have at least 6 models in .260 rem. Remington not so much. CZ has one or two. I love my .260 but I would not use it as a Pdog rifle. As far as burning the barrels out, you would have to shoot thousands of 58gr Vmaxs out of a 243 to burn it out dependant on the rifle. You will get maybe 1 or 2 thousand more in the .260 but the cost of the ammo, even reloading makes it a wash if you have to rebarrel.
 
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