Thinking about trading my Witness 10mm for a 1911...

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Moparmike

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I shot Oleg's 1911 at the TN Mafia shoot, and I enjoyed it more than my Witness. It fits better, it has readily available parts, a caliber that I can get WWB in, and holsters.

I found out that the problem with my Witness may be that the mag springs cant keep up with the more powerful 20lb Wolffe spring, so I will test it with the 14lb spring it came with to see if it works better. Aside from that, it is far too expensive to shoot. I cant get over my infernal flinching because of the expense of not only 10mm, but also the .22lr conversion kit from EAA.


The more I type, the more I convince myself that 1911 is the way to go for me.:eek:

What do yall think?
 
Moparmike; It took me a while to find out just how good the 1911 really is. I have a Colt Series 70 and a Dan Wesson Marksman. Both feel great in the hand and shoot supper accurate. I for a long time have carried Sigs in 357 Sig, .40 and .45 and still do. I depend on the Sig because I have never had not one malfunction in thousands of rounds from the different cals I shoot. Maybe one day I will carry the 1911 but for now I will just enjoy the firing line sessions to the max. By the way, I have even thought of getting the Witness 10MM but have not been fully convinced of their realiability. I sure wish S&W would bring back their line of realiable 10's in quick order. I for one would sure get a couple. Are you listening S & W? :D :D :D :D
 
Anyone else notice the shortage of 10mm brass on Gunbroker and other
other auction websites?

I'm shooting my RAMI and 97B more than my 10mm Witness.
Don't overlook the CZ .45 if you want a great gun.
 
Hard to beat a .45 1911 for just shooting

If you don't have at least one 1911 in .45 you are missing out on something good. They are more fun to shoot at the range than just about anything else, because of their excellent triggers, outstanding accuracy and reasonably priced practice ammo (compared to 10mm). I am fond of Colt Gold Cups and have several, buying my first one about 14 years ago. But I have also shot other people's Kimbers and admire them as well.

I know that 1911's are controversial for CCW because of the cocked and locked issue, as well as reliability concerns compared to revolvers, Glocks, Sigs, etc. But this shouldn't stop you from having a lot of fun with one at the range.
 
Bump. I would appreciate some opinions. :)



I tried out some 1911's for fit and soforth today, and almost all of them have REALLY crappy slide releases. Its like trying to push 20lb cheese grater-board down when its nailed to the wall! It hurts and doesnt budge. At least its not as bad as a Glock's slide release.

Odd, both Glocks and 1911's fit me well. Its either a blessing or a curse, dunno which...
 
If ammo cost were the only issue...

Buy a Dillon press and make your own ammo. With my chosen components, 10mm cost me about $3.50/50 rounds, .45 about $3.55.
 
Mopar - to paraphrase my Grandmother, "Your Witness is a Persnickety Little Bugger." That narrow backstrap doesn't help with taming recoil any either.

I never did get around to asking why it had a stronger Wolff recoil spring. Was it just a recommended upgrade or did you do it to solve a problem?

Unless you get a reloading press, there is no real option for you to get cheap play ammo. I'm going to guess from your earlier comments that the Witness .22 conversion kit is rather expensive? Ick.

There are three answers to the 1911 slide stop problem.
- extended slide stop - not expensive, and a drop-in part
- as you slam the mag home with our left hand, get into the habit of working the slidestop with your left thumb.
- as you slam the mag home with your left hand, get in the habit of running your left hand over the rear sight and tugging it backwards.

I'd enthusiastically suggest a good .45 anda .22 kit for it. You'll have a grand 'ol time with that combo. (I'm waiting to find the Kimber .22 kit for my Pro at a good price)
 
You would be better off selling the Witness then buying the 1911. You most likely won't get much for it in trade unless you purchase a high end 1911 and even then it would be iffy.
If possible keep the Witness because the 10mm would be fun to play with every now and then. That would keep the expense of feeding it down.

The slide stop will be difficult with an empty mag in place. You are fighting against the mag spring. Load the mag or remove the mag and it will be easier to operate. You should make a habit of not slamming the slide home on an empty chamber anyway. You will reduce the battering your pistol would take.
If you go with an extended slide stop then be sure you don't ride the slide stop or you may find the pistol not locking open after the last round. That's one reason they are not well liked by many 1911 shooters. Just use your left thumb to push down on the slide stop right after you slam the mag home in one smooth motion.
 
I found out that the problem with my Witness may be that the mag springs cant keep up with the more powerful 20lb Wolffe spring, so I will test it with the 14lb spring it came with to see if it works better.

That's the exact opposite of what you should be doing. If the slide is going too fast for the magazine springs to get a round up, increase the recoil spring weight; don't decrease it.

Aside from that, it is far too expensive to shoot.

http://www.georgia-arms.com/pistol.htm

$160/1,000+ S/H.
 
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