I have access to some tungsten super shot. I want to load some .410 shells for my grandchild to hunt turkeys, so why can't I just take the shot out of a factory .410, weigh it and replace it with the same number of grains of TSS, plus a filler wad? How could there be any pressure danger since the powder would be pushing the same weight with either shell?
This may be a dumb question, but...
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243winxb
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Difference in volume per weight?? Looks like tungsten is heavier, so a filler is needed. A shorter shot column should produce less pressure??
Cant you buy factory? The 410 is not a turkey cartridge, just saying.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...muth-v-steel-v-tungsten-can-t-be-interchanged
See post 18 photo.
Here are the TPS wads w shot, left to right, 88gr each: steel (7g/cc), lead (11g/c), Hevi-(12g/cc), Heavyweight (15g/cc), Tungsten (18g/cc)
Cant you buy factory? The 410 is not a turkey cartridge, just saying.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...muth-v-steel-v-tungsten-can-t-be-interchanged
See post 18 photo.
Here are the TPS wads w shot, left to right, 88gr each: steel (7g/cc), lead (11g/c), Hevi-(12g/cc), Heavyweight (15g/cc), Tungsten (18g/cc)
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The tungsten would take up much less volume for the same weight of shot, so there would have to be an overshot spacer, but my question is, if a factory powder charge pushes an ounce of lead, wouldn't the pressures be the same with an ounce of tungsten. I am just thinking that I could save buying components (when my grandkids are only going to shoot a couple of shells a year) by merely changing out the shot in a couple of factory shells to get the benefit of tungsten on turkeys.
243winxb
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The shorter tungsten shot column may produce less pressure?
But the harder tungsten/wad may press against the barrel walls harder? More pressure?
May just balance each other out?
I am thinking the filler should be under the shot.?? Over may blow the pattern?
I mixed plastic pellets/buffer in with lead , years ago. Before that , flour was used, but proved dangerous.
Safer to buy factory shells , when dealing with the grandkids.
But the harder tungsten/wad may press against the barrel walls harder? More pressure?
May just balance each other out?
I am thinking the filler should be under the shot.?? Over may blow the pattern?
I mixed plastic pellets/buffer in with lead , years ago. Before that , flour was used, but proved dangerous.
Safer to buy factory shells , when dealing with the grandkids.
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I don't load .410 , but I do 20 ga and have used smaller fiber wads under shot in a plastic wads to take up space ....
You could figure out the diameter you need to place in the bottom of the shot side of the wad ... May be as simple as a sharpened cartridge brass to cookie cutter the filler .... from maybe cork sheet ...packing foam .... Or something like ....
But ....HeviShot makes a .410 load with Hevi Shot..
You could figure out the diameter you need to place in the bottom of the shot side of the wad ... May be as simple as a sharpened cartridge brass to cookie cutter the filler .... from maybe cork sheet ...packing foam .... Or something like ....
But ....HeviShot makes a .410 load with Hevi Shot..
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Also, shot such as steel, and tungsten are MUCH harder than lead shot. They require wads that protect the bore, and limit pressure build up meaning different powders.
After going on a waterfowl hunt to Devils Lake N.Dakota in '06, I became very disillusioned about waterfowl hunting in S.E.USA. Haven't duck/goose hunted in 10yrs now. If I went back to N.D. to hunt, I'd take my o/u .410 and 3/8oz Bismuth loads to "make it fair" for the ducks. We had mallard hens lighting on us in lay-out blinds on opening week end. I joked to a game warden that I should have brought my tennis racquet instead of shotgun. I asked him what was the max legal length... he said 5 feet ,,, it's the longest he could swing...
After going on a waterfowl hunt to Devils Lake N.Dakota in '06, I became very disillusioned about waterfowl hunting in S.E.USA. Haven't duck/goose hunted in 10yrs now. If I went back to N.D. to hunt, I'd take my o/u .410 and 3/8oz Bismuth loads to "make it fair" for the ducks. We had mallard hens lighting on us in lay-out blinds on opening week end. I joked to a game warden that I should have brought my tennis racquet instead of shotgun. I asked him what was the max legal length... he said 5 feet ,,, it's the longest he could swing...
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