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Those evil toy guns must be eradicated !

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by shooter503, Oct 7, 2006.

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  1. shooter503

    shooter503 Member

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    How far does the power of the school reach? Apparently the children were playing with the toy guns AT THE BUS STOP and never even took the toys onto the bus.

    What is next? Suspension for playing with toy guns at home?
     
  2. geekWithA.45

    geekWithA.45 Moderator Emeritus

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    More to the point, WHO CALLED IT IN?
     
  3. Deer Hunter

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    I bet that good citizen that stopped these little terroristic miscreants feels all warm and fuzzy inside for hindering their terrorist training rituals.
     
  4. wuchak

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    Sounds like more of that "zero-tolerance" BS. Although if you ask her the students are probably expected to be tolerant of homosexuality, transgenderism, attacks on their religion, strip searches with out parental notification (yes, this happens at schools), and a host of other left wing ideology.

    What happened to having intelligent, fair, people in positions of authority who would review each infraction, or potential infraction, of the rules and decide on an appropriate punishment based on the specific case?
     
  5. Phenom

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    As far as I know a bus stop isn't school property.
     
  6. The Deer Hunter

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    Does anyone know where these lunatics can be contacted?
     
  7. jak

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    What a wonderfully frustrating question. It turns out that the schools consider students to be under their jurisdiction from the time they step out their doors in the morning, to the time they walk back inside their homes.

    And actually, if you do something that they disapprove of over the weekend, they can suspend you for that as well (fighting, drinking, etc.). Welcome to the wonderful world of public schools. :banghead:

    And an illustration of the rediculousness(sp?) of zero-tolerance... When my little sister was in the 4th or 5th grade, one of her classmates brought in a bullet. A single, solitary bullet. The teacher found out, and he was expelled for a year.
     
  8. boilingleadbath

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    At least at my school, I think (they don't provide enough information for me to acctualy be sure) that they use GVSD 218.1.
    Just to make fun of it, GVSD 218.1 defines a weapon as:

    “Weapon” - the term shall include but not be limited to any knife, cutting instrument, cutting tool, nunchaku stick, brass or metal knuckles, fire-arms, shotgun, rifle, bb or pellet gun, look-alike gun, chemical agent, explosive device, bows and crossbows, slings and slingshots, bludgeons, straight razors, gases, and/or any other tool, instrument or implement capable of inflicting serious bodily injury. Ammunition, bullets, cartridges, primers, propellant powder, pellets, arrows, bolts and darts that can be used in connection with any prohibited weapon shall also constitute a weapon.

    They might as well have just said "all matter" and have been done with it...

    (And yes, possesion includes travel to-and-from school.)

    I seem to remember their being an exception for "approved stuffs" - but I can't find it.
     
  9. Prince Yamato

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    Why not just say, "A weapon is defined as any item used to injure a fellow student or teacher."

    Administrators are a bunch of dumbasses. Nunchaku? Crossbows? Who the hell brings those to school?
     
  10. CB900F

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    Fella's;

    The proper term for the educational powers-that-be would seem to be "overeducated idiots" If they were normal everyday idiots, it's remotely possible that they could understand the concept that the weapon is between the ears & everything else is nought but a tool. But, as it is, not a chance.

    900F
     
  11. Wes Janson

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    What about a rock? Tied to the end of a stick? Also known as the Browning Model of 19911 (BC)? Is that one prohibited too?

     
  12. orionengnr

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    Paper cut...Owww Owww Owww

    We must ban all paper from public schools...and from buses and homes as well!

    It's for the children, dammit!!!

    Note: all books must be burned immediately...because they are constructed of evil paper! :evil:

    Alternatively, we could burn all the teachers and administrators....(never mind, I didn't actually say that, did I, Big Brother? :rolleyes:))

    Oh crap, I think I did...
     
  13. Geronimo45

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    "Nunchaku? Crossbows? Who the hell brings those to school?"
    A shrimpy kid with an angelic face covering a mind bent on pure evil... me. Only I didn't go to public school, so I never got that chance.
     
  14. LkWinnipesaukee

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    bullets, cartridges...pellets


    WOW.

    So if I have a pellet or an empty case hidden in my pocket from shooting last week, I can be... expelled?


    stupid.

    Reloading presses? dies? EVIL!!! I mean, the kid could use that stuff to reload some ammo during class, pull a gun out of his ### and shoot everyone. Jeez...
     
  15. Aguila Blanca

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    On the basis of this, then, they obviously are prohibiting wooden pencils, ball point pens, keys, key rings, wrist watches, shoelaces (surely they've heard of a garrote), cowboy or motorcycle boots, steel toed work shoes, ...
     
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    Links? Where's Aloha? Hawaii?
     
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    Funny how growing up in the south it was so usual, during deer season especially, to see pick ups with rifles in the gun racks parked at school almost every day and no one seemed to think anything of it. But that was 30 years ago. Most of my teachers or their husbands were hunters and shooters. Those days be gone I suppose.
     
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    re:nunchuks

    No, these were all the thing with the kids a few years ago. Every third teenage boy had 'em, and most of THEM brought them to school. Not to fight with, to play with. To show off with. Few of them had REAL weapon-type nunchuks, they had cheapy imitation things that the chains would break on the first time you swung one against a wall. :rolleyes:

    I know this because of my youngest son and because for a good part of the last 10 years I was a school psychologist.

    And yes, school administrators are a pain in the butt. They certainly were in mine. :fire:

    Springmom
     
  19. Axman

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    Those who believe nunchakus are a valid weapon didn't watch the "Mailcall" episode where R. Lee did the segment on ninjas. Nanchakus are a Bruce Lee movie prop for show only.
     
  20. Gene Beasley

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    Aloha and Beaverton are suburbs of Portland, OR.

    As for zero-tolerance – this is just intellectual laziness. Simply apply the rule and forget having to analyze the impact, appropriateness, or at the very least use some old fashion common sense.

    While I was getting ready to further decry the woes of zero-tolerance, I went and did a little research and have to admit that Beaverton School District Discipline Handbook actually appears to be something reasonable.

    From page 15
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    So, the problem must then be in the state law regulating definitions of weapons on school grounds and definition of what constitutes school grounds. It would seem to me that a toy gun at the bus stop that never made it onto the bus would not apply. Assuming the superintendent has the stones to make an appropriate modification, then I would retract my zero-tolerance comment for this case.
     
  21. modifiedbrowning

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    So, what is the problem here?
     
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