Time for a PID

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Iwsbull

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Don’t know if it’s because the temperature has dropped off outside or what, but I burned a batch of bullets tonight powder coating them. Everything was set just like normal but when I went to get them out the powdercoat was too dark and the bases had deformed a bit. banghead.gif So now I need to get my PID hooked up for my pot and a separate probe for my oven. Hope someone can learn from my mistakes
 
They are cheap these days. I started out using them on my smokers, didn’t even think about anything else when I went to casting.

You might be able to calibrate your oven using the casting thermocouple, if you wanted to save some money. I did that on the stove at the farm before we finally replaced it.
 
Bought a cheap rex-c100 a couple years ago and haven't looked back since. I cast a lot of hp and hb bullets and wanted better control of the alloy/pot. Using it with a toaster oven to pc bullets is an added bonus.
 
I got one a week ago just had not gotten around to hooking it up but will this weekend or early next week.
 
To be a bit more clear, a PID is an electronic device that is used to regulate the temperature of a casting pot, oven, or similar.
It senses the temp, and turns the device on or off, or regulates the voltage to keep the temp stable.
 
Hooked up my PID and placed it in my oven at the setting I was using, WOW instead of the oven controller reading of 350 it went to 570+ before it would cycle off. The thermostat in the toaster oven appears to be toast. Regardless I now have my PID up and running.
Yes it is a big name for a thermostat but it is a fancy thermostat. So it’s got that going for it and that’s nice.
 
Complected name for a thermostat?

A thermostat is a switch. Above a set temp, it turns off. Below set temp, it turns on. There is generally some hysteresis due to mechanics but not always.

A PID allows for much more precise control.

I started trying to control temps on a smoker using an electric fan thermostat and a solenoid. It does work, go over temp the the thermostat triggers the solenoid closing off all air flow, lowering the temp until it drops below the set point and opens back up. It over shoots and lags behind to catch up but the setup would maintain within 5 degrees F, pretty much like a house hold oven, except that’s also how you make smoke signals. Letting a fire “go” then cutting it off turns everything black with smoke, unless you wrap it early.

With a PID you can set the parameters in a way where if it’s close to the set point it makes tiny incremental changes to get “right on”. If it sees a huge drop in temp, like you open the food door, it will open the damper dramatically. Then once you close the door, it recognizes that the temp is rapidly increasing and will start closing the damper to keep it from overshooting the set point. Same goes for the opposite if the fire door is opened.

On a calm day, a PID can keep a mature wood fire stable inside a single degree F.

When it’s that close it may only activate the damper for a tenth of a second, barely even turning the 1/4-28 stainless rod that moves the damper. Precision you just can’t get with an on/off device.

 
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