Time to end the Fish In A Barrel Zones

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Fryerpower

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It is time to change the tone of the discussion. I just sent this to my state representitives:

Sirs:


The short and sweet:

-No additional restrictions to existing gun laws

-Expand existing rights


In the last week we have had two highly publicized shootings in our country.

A little analysis between the Oregon mall shooting and the Connecticut school shooting:
•One shooter wore body armor. The other wore a cloth vest that was confused with body armor.
•Both shooters had medium power (.223 caliber) semi-automatic rifles. (Not high power as is they are being portrayed in the press.)
•Both shooters had multiple normal capacity magazines. (Some people call them high capacity just because they hold more than 10 rounds.)
•Both shooters died at their own hands from self inflicted gun wounds.


Why was the death toll so low in the Oregon mall shooting last week and so high in the Connecticut school shooting last Friday? What were the differences?
•The Oregon mall shooter faced a concealed carry permit holder armed with a pistol.
•The Connecticut school shooter knew he had unarmed victims in a Gun Free Zone.


Time and time again determined defenders, lets call them sheepdogs, have proved that all it takes is a person with a handgun providing resistance to an assault to end the madness.


It is time to introduce a bill allowing Tennessee Handgun Carry Permit (HCP) holders to carry concealed on school property. I believe the support is there if you would look and ask. The people of Tennessee realize that legal HCP holders are not a threat and are actually the sheepdogs in sheep's clothing that you need to protect our children. If you are not willing to go that far then at least introduce a bill allowing Tennessee teachers and administrators who hold a Tennessee Handgun Carry Permit (HCP) to carry concealed on school property. That would at least give you a couple of people per school who could stop an active shooter. As it is now the best we can hope for is that our educators with HCP will leave their guns locked in their car and would have the opportunity to run outside, grab their gun, and come back in to help.


Float the idea. Introduce the bill. I think you might be surprised at the positive response you will get. Gun Free Zones are government mandated Fish-In-A-Barrel Zones. To quote an article in the Wall Street Journal:
"Real gun-free zones are a wonderful idea, but they are only real if they are created by metal detectors backed up by armed guards. Pretend gun-free zones, where law-abiding adults (who pass a fingerprint-based background check and a safety training class) are still disarmed, are magnets for evildoers who know they will be able to murder at will with little threat of being fired upon."

References:

Article about the Oregon mall CCW holder:

http://now.msn.com/nick-meli-who-had-a-concealed-weapon-thought-about-shooting-oregon-mall-killer


Principal who retrieved his handgun from his car and stopped the shooter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High_School_shooting


Senior citizen who stopped a robbery in Florida with his CCW handgun:

http://www.inquisitr.com/278528/sen...bber-at-palms-internet-cafe-in-florida-video/

Wall Street Journal article quoted:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...8185271857424036.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop


Respectfully,


Jim XXXXXX

XXXX XXXX XXXX

XXXXXX, TN XXXXX

HCP holder and husband of a teacher who is also a HCP holder
 
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I like it. The name is more fitting than starting with 'Gun Free Zone' as well.


However I have always found the phrase 'like shooting fish in a barrel' odd.
I mean sure I have heard it plenty of times in life, but who actually shot fish in a barrel? Was it some sort of circus/carnival event back in the day?

It would seem to me that if you have the fish in a barrel you have already caught them and any shooting or fishing would be unnecessary to kill them and turn them into dinner.

Who used to shoot fish in a barrel? And if nobody then why would such a strange term have originally caught on?
 
I don't know where it came from. I do seem to recall MythBusters doing a bit on it and finding that it is actually kind of hard to shoot fish in a barrel. Sounds good though!

Jim
 
Tennessee already has very friendly laws for CCW/HCP holders thanks to a push by our representitives a couple of years ago. Heck, I can even carry an AK-74 with a full magazine in the gun as long as there is not one in the chamber. Heck, I can even have one in the chamber if I am in "imminent danger"! We can carry in bars as long as we are not drinking. We can carry in most parks. We can carry while hunting (big shock there). We can carry while bow hunting (not to use for hunting, but for self protection).

This may not be too big of a streach to get passed.

Any idea if there are any states that allow CCW or teachers with CCW to carry? It would be nice to show them examples.

Jim
 
I like it. The name is more fitting than starting with 'Gun Free Zone' as well.


However I have always found the phrase 'like shooting fish in a barrel' odd.
I mean sure I have heard it plenty of times in life, but who actually shot fish in a barrel? Was it some sort of circus/carnival event back in the day?

It would seem to me that if you have the fish in a barrel you have already caught them and any shooting or fishing would be unnecessary to kill them and turn them into dinner.

Who used to shoot fish in a barrel? And if nobody then why would such a strange term have originally caught on?

The phrase is an analogy meant to convey that something is a "sure thing" or very nearly so.
 
Yeah I know what it conveys, but many similar such phrases have a root that started in some distant reality when they are that obscure.
 
I'm in Tennessee too. I know it is legal in several states for K-12 carry. More so for colleges and universities. We need to get this legalized for people with permits, get rid of the local parks that have bans, and the signs with fines.
 
I hear your pain on the gun-free zones. I don't know about TN, but here in Arizona, I noticed a number of "No Firearms" signs popping up on doors since Friday that never had them before. Unfortunately, it will take 50 legislative actions to get rid of them.
 
Sorry Fryerpower, but some of your insights are wrong. It is good to get your information straight before sending off stuff.

The Oregon mall shooter was not wearing a ballistic vest. It was a load bearing vest.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/12/justice/oregon-mall-shooting/index.html

I think if you speak with gun experts, .223 is considered a medium-power rifle. If you call it high power, then the magazines are high capacity.
 
Edited and sent to Sen Webb and the flip-flopping traitor Sen. Warner. (both D-VA).
We'll have to replace Warner come votin' season.
 
I thought this was well put.
"Real gun-free zones are a wonderful idea, but they are only real if they are created by metal detectors backed up by armed guards. Pretend gun-free zones, where law-abiding adults (who pass a fingerprint-based background check and a safety training class) are still disarmed, are magnets for evildoers who know they will be able to murder at will with little threat of being fired upon."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...8185271857424036.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
 
Corrected high power rifle line & body armor, and added WSJ quote.

Keep the corrections and improvements coming!

Jim
 
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