TiteWad for Handguns

[flytyer232]

I would like to start off with a quick introduction, i am a new member, and probably one of the "younger" guys around here....

I have been reloading for quite some time, and am wondering about the use of titewad for handgun use?

I have 4x 8 pound cans of the stuff, left over from my days as a competitive trap shooter, and given the current storage of my normal handgun powders, i have been experimenting with it.

I have used it quite well in 45 ACP, about 3.9gr pushing a 230/200 grain cast bullet, however i am thinking about using it for 9mm.

Has anyone had any experience with titewad in 9mm?

Just wondering if i have a life time supply of powder for my handguns.....

 

[TfflHndn]

A 115 grain bullet should be good with 3.0 to 3.5 grains of TiteWad. Start low, go slow, you should be okay. I use Ramshot Comp load data as a loose guide and work it carefully. Of course, YMMV, and use this info at your own risk and be careful.

 

[kcofohio]

flytyer232, welcome to THR!

Hodgdon load data site list one load for 9mm. A 124 gr. Berry's bullet. Max load shows a velocity of 942 fps.

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol

 

[Rule3]

Titewad is a very fast burning powder so be very, very sure of you powder charges. Although there is data for it it was made primarily for the 12 gauge.

 

[gonoles_1980]

I have been using Titewad 3.2 gr with 124 gr xtreme CPFP with pretty good results in a 9mm. Before I started loading I ran a ladder load from 3.0 to 3.3 gr with no issues.

 

[rsrocket1]

I love Titewad (for 12 gauge 3/4 oz loads). Unfortunately, it is right there with Clays in burn speed. Works great for low velocity 38/40/45 but will barely cycle a 9mm load before you get to max pressure. Look at Clays load data by weight (not volume, Titewad takes up less space). If you are getting close to Clays max and don't get the performance you want, stop. You really need a powder on the other side of Clays like International or Universal for 9mm.

If you get reliable cycling but the cases flip up only about 6 inches, you might have to be satisfied with that. That's around 3.5g with a 115-10g bullet.

Titewad is really meant for shotguns. Titegroup is meant for handguns, but both can be used in the other realm if you are careful.

 

[1KPerDay]

Speaking of international... Anyone have data for handguns? /hijack

 

[rsrocket1]

International should be close to Green Dot meaning slower than Red Dot but faster than Unique.

It is (was) made by ADI for Hodgdon. Look at ADI's website for load data on AP50N. International was AS50N, but AP50N will be real close and you can use that data as a reference point.

 

[Walkalong]

Titewad is a very fast burning powder so be very, very sure of you powder charges. Although there is data for it it was made primarily for the 12 gauge.

Agreed. There are so many fine pistol powders with lots of data, that I have never tried it,

 

[BigBore45]

go here...http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/


they show one load for 9mm and titewad.

its with a 124 gr. bullet. so if you wanted to use a 115 grain bullet i would maybe add .2 grains to the min load and work up very carefully. or just enough to get the gun to cycle properly. it will not get very good performance velocity wise anyways so no point in risking it. would be a darn good plinking powder though. im 29 y.o. so yeah im a young one for here

 

[Elkins45]

I have used it in 9mm with the data from the Hodgdon site. Nothing abnormal to report.

 

[flytyer232]

well i loaded up a few (two hundred or so), with a 115gr. FMJ, under 3.4 gr. of Titewad. The results were actually quite surprising, my average velocity of 15 tested, out of a 4 inch barrel, was 1093.2 FPS, and 1124.6 FPS out of a 5.25 inch barrel.

They cycled well in 4 inch, or shorter, guns, though the brass barely kicked out, which is nice for collecting my brass after the fact.

The load did not cycle well in the longer guns, both in my XDM and m&p, in which i usually got every other one to cycle, as stove piping was common. I kind of expected this, though it is interesting given the velocity reached....

I am actually quite happy with the load, for the more compact guns. The recoil was quite minimal, especially for the velocity reached. Accuracy was good, though i would like to see how it performs with cast....