Too bad CZ doesn't make a revolver

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I imagine being a Dan Wesson they will be made in their plant in New York. If this is the case like their 1911s, then they will be expensive.
 
Guillermo said:
because modern revolvers, for the most part, suck. The golden era of the revolver is in the past.
Good investments? Yes...but that is not my primary purpose.
They are a diminishing resource.
You're joking, right?

Upon what do you base such statements? :scrutiny:
 
Originally Posted by Guillermo.

because modern revolvers, for the most part, suck. The golden era of the revolver is in the past.
Good investments? Yes...but that is not my primary purpose.
They are a diminishing resource.

I’ll back Guillermo, up to a point.

By virtue of their design, revolvers are more expensive to make then pistols, especially those with polymer frames. Also revolvers don’t particularly lend themselves well to modern manufacturing technologies designed to lessen the human craftsmanship factor.

When one has had the opportunity to disassemble literally hundreds of quality revolvers that were made from the19th century forward, and examine them, the difference in workmanship quickly becomes clear. While the fine craftsmanship is obvious in the older guns, one can also see that it couldn’t be duplicated in today’s manufacturing economy with it’s high overhead and labor costs and still sell at a price most potential buyers would pay. It can also be said that the steel and other materials used in 21st century revolvers is better that that found in those made during the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

A term often used in industrial production is functional equivalent that roughly translates into, “Yes, it isn’t as well made as the one we made formally, but it will still get the job done.” For some that’s enough, but others (including the Old Fuff) still want that which used to be but will probably never be seen again. It is not coincidental that an original Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum made during the late 1930’s, which is in pristine condition, will sell for two to three times what a current model 27 will fetch. Why? Because some folks know the difference. ;)
 
I would love to see more midsized revolvers offered up for the market.

I truly think that every shooter should at least try, if not buy, a 4 in 38 special handgun. A 4 inch 357 is very nice, and a close second, but something about the way the older 38s were made is just as smooth as can be. I have a Colt Official Police made in the 1950s that I bought for a pittance, and I wouldn't sell it for 3x what I paid.

I never knew what a good "DA" revolver trigger was supposed to feel like until I got that gun. If I saw a 4 or 5 inch Model 10 from that same time frame, I wouldn't be able to get my wallet out fast enough.

Shooting that gun with some 158gr LSWC in the mild +p range is really a very enjoyable experience.
 
"CZ is currently making the Dan Wesson Alaska guide and an 8" 445 supermag at $1300,00 and $1100.00 respectively."

Sound like nice guns but at that price point count me out (if they are going for retail). I have a 357 Mag DW I bought new a couple of years back for $700. It is a nice gun that I enjoy regularly. I have other DWs (1911s) as well which I also like very much. CZ has succeeded magnificently in increasing the cost of DWs.

Barbarian
 
CZ is currently making the Dan Wesson Alaska guide and an 8" 445 supermag at $1300,00 and $1100.00 respectively. ........ They are going ahead with more models next year, and they have my interest for sure.


No.

Dan Wesson stopped ALL revolver production 2 years ago.
All tooling & production equipment was removed to make room for expanded 1911 production.
All personel involved in revolver production are gone.
Keith Lawton, Production Manager of Dan Wesson told me personaly at the NRA show there are NO PLANS to reintroduce revolvers, While he and Dan Wesson would like to, there is zero interest from parent company CZ-USA.
 
Historically, revolvers made on the Continent and in the UK had a different look and style to them compared to US-made revolvers. If CZ were going to bring out a line of revolvers, I'd prefer that they produce something that echoes that old European style. I've got a couple S&W revolvers, a Ruger, and an old H&R. Give me something different or I'm not interested.
 
because modern revolvers, for the most part, suck. The golden era of the revolver is in the past.
Good investments? Yes...but that is not my primary purpose.
They are a diminishing resource.

I’ll back Guillermo, up to a point.

By virtue of their design, revolvers are more expensive to make then pistols, especially those with polymer frames. Also revolvers don’t particularly lend themselves well to modern manufacturing technologies designed to lessen the human craftsmanship factor.

When one has had the opportunity to disassemble literally hundreds of quality revolvers that were made from the19th century forward, and examine them, the difference in workmanship quickly becomes clear. While the fine craftsmanship is obvious in the older guns, one can also see that it couldn’t be duplicated in today’s manufacturing economy with it’s high overhead and labor costs and still sell at a price most potential buyers would pay. It can also be said that the steel and other materials used in 21st century revolvers is better that that found in those made during the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

A term often used in industrial production is functional equivalent that roughly translates into, “Yes, it isn’t as well made as the one we made formally, but it will still get the job done.” For some that’s enough, but others (including the Old Fuff) still want that which used to be but will probably never be seen again. It is not coincidental that an original Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum made during the late 1930’s, which is in pristine condition, will sell for two to three times what a current model 27 will fetch. Why? Because some folks know the difference.

Well, as usual, Old Fuff presents a pretty balanced point of view. In short, I'm no expert, but I have a couple 50s-era 5-screw target revolvers, and yes, the fit and finish are tough to beat. However, in both cases, my new stainless, lock- and MIM-infested variants shoot better. Heirlooms are fine. I'll keep buying them when funds allow. When I want a shooter, though, I have no qualms about buying new. Then I'll shoot the batsnot out of it :)
 
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