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I have a trade deal worked out but the guy can't drive at all to meet me. So he wants a buddy of his to make the deal with me. It just doesn't sit right with me as being legal. Any thoughts???? I'm in Iowa.
 
If you are at all uncomfortable with the trade as described; go through an FFL. It adds a little to the cost but should provide a wealth of peace of mind.
 
Is there any sort of paperwork or registration requirements for acquiring a firearm in your state?

If not, and assuming there are no prohibited individuals involved, should be good to go. Mind you, I'm not a lawyer.

If its a worthwhile trade, and don't want to do a 3-party transfer, offer to drive to the owner if he will make it worth the drive.

I've knocked cash off the price or offered a box of ammo to offset their time and cost for driving to me.
 
You stated he can't drive at all to meet with you, why can't he ride with his friend to make the trade? I wouldn't feel good with this trade at all, just too big of a red flag for me.

By the way, where in Iowa? I'm originally from the southwest corner, little town named Glenwood.
 
To me it seems like the buddy is in a sticky spot for a possible straw purchase. Unless you are desperate or the other party is a hermit, just wait for a better time to swap.
 
Once again, a straw purchase requires an acquisition FROM AN FFL. No FFL, no straw purchase.

Still, I agree, let him ride with his friend or make your driving to meet him worth your time and effort. Otherwise no deal but that's just me.
 
I'm not sure it would bother me in my state, as long as the item being traded to me is also a firearm. If he's already in possession of one, I'm not going to worry that he becomes in possession of a different one (the one I bring him.) This is why counties here that impose waiting periods for handgun purchases typically waive that requirement when the purchaser is trading one in.

I would, of course, take action to insure my safety in the transaction environment.
 
I am not a lawyer either but do live in Iowa

What concerns me is that it we do not know if you have ever met the person you are trading with. However, for him/her to acquire a gun from you, FTF, you must have it proven to you that he/she is also a legal resident of Iowa and that he/she is 18 or older. Also, if it is a handgun then that person must be age 21, a resident of Iowa, and prove to you that he/she has a permit to acquire a handgun. Of course, a legal concealed carry permit works as an Iowa issued permit to acquire a handgun. I say that you should give yourself the comfort of doing this face-to-face with that person and why can't he drive for the meet or have his buddy bring him. Something is fishy about this. If he cannot drive to your meeting place he simply can ride with someone who will drive him. To me this smells suspicious for that reason.
 
where did you "meet" this guy? Did you have an Armslist ad? A local forum classified?

I ask because I once did something similar. It was a deal brokered through a local forum I am a member of. I felt comfortable with it becuase the guy was a long standing member AND I found out that we personaly knew a couple of the same people.

I am curious as to how you brokered the deal, wondering if there is anyway to get any "references" (for lack of a better word) on this guy
 
Ask for ID from the friend, act as if the deal is with him. Write something up with description of guns, serial #'s, date, and ID #'s. Include that his signature signifies he is legal to possess weapons.

Doesn't matter who the deal is with if all criteria are met.
 
If he can't make the drive with his buddy it may b because his ankle bracelet won't allow him to travel that far. This one stinks so bad that I'd reconsider making the trade.
 
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I wouldn't do it. There could be a bunch of legitimate reasons for not being able to make the trip, but I wouldn't take the chance. To me there is too much of a risk that he would be a prohibited person.
 
Amen to a most of the above. If he won't show up, it's not worth your time or risk. There are plenty of us out there who will do a straight deal, and even if he's legit it's not worth it, regardless of the state.
 
The very fact that you posted the question on this forum means that your gut is telling you something.

I don't think I would follow through with the deal if I were in your situation.
 
I would do what I felt was the responsible thing to do. In this case, not a snowballs chance in hell.

This kind of dealing gives anti's ammunition.......
 
The very fact that you posted the question on this forum means that your gut is telling you something.
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Agree with Elkins. I'd be very leery of someone pulling this as it reeks of an unlawful transfer. :scrutiny:
 
You know, it could be fishy. It might be perfectly legitimate. I can think of a lot of good reasons. Before retiring I often worked 12-20 hours/day, 7 days per week for weeks at a time with no off days. I quite often had to get my wife or other family members to take care of things for me.

If the person you deal with is legal then you should be fine. If the person you actually give possession of the gun to then gives it to a person who cannot legally own the gun the illegal transaction is between them. I'd not completely rule out the trade, but get a few more details. Getting some info and a signed receipt from the person you actually trade with would make me feel better.
 
jmr40 said:
If the person you actually give possession of the gun to then gives it to a person who cannot legally own the gun the illegal transaction is between them.
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I thought I would pull this out and highlight it in case anybody missed it.


Your responsibility is to follow state and federal laws when you transfer a gun to someone else. It then becomes their responsibility to follow state and federal laws if/when they transfer it again.
 
GoWolfpack said:
I thought I would pull this out and highlight it in case anybody missed it.


Your responsibility is to follow state and federal laws when you transfer a gun to someone else. It then becomes their responsibility to follow state and federal laws if/when they transfer it again.
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However, if the first person had reason to believe that the second person was going to do something illegal with the gun, then the first person would be guilty of aiding the second person in their crime. In this case, I would say that reasonable suspicion would exist.
 
Before my accident I worked 7 days a week and there is no way I could drive out of town to buy something. Even if I could get away I would lose several hundred $ by not working to go get it. I would sometimes pay someone to go pick something up for me although I would never have done that with a firearm.
 
I'm not at all familiar with Iowa law, but in my state of Arizona it's not a problem.

But I do have to agree with others here, that something seems a bit off. I would probably run the deal through an FFL. and if he isn't open to that than he is probably up to no good or hiding something, like a stolen firearm maybe.

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Sounds to me like the guy made a trade deal he knew he could not personally keep. That's a non starter for any item.
 
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