Traded for an AK. Shoot steel for accuracy?

[SamT1]

So i had a rifle my brother wanted so I swapped him for an AK. N-pap zastava Serbia with paratrooper stock. I've always had a sweet spot for Ak's, and didn't mind trading for one since they are cheap to shoot and will likely be worth more in the future.
I'm thinking about buying a thread adapter to put my suppressor in it for some plinking. It doesn't have a scope mount bracket like lots of ak's do so I would be using open sights.
Do y'all think I could hit a 12" Gong at 300 yards with open sights and cheap ammo? Or is it a waste of effort.

 

[Telekinesis]

Maybe. It depends on the gun. I'd start out at 100 and see what you can do. Generally the cheap ammo is not going to group well and Century guns are not great accuracy wise, but a couple of inches at 100 yards is not out of the question so if you do your part you might be able to do 12" at 300. Optic wise an ultimak rail above the gas tube would let you put on a red dot in a scout mount type configuration. A lot of people use the micro red dots, but something like an aimpoint pro would be fine too (if a bit heavier).

On the suppressor, have someone check the concentricity of the stock threads, and then have them check the concentricity with the adapter on it. AK's are known for having threads that are not concentric to the bore which can cause baffle strikes.

 

[wally]

IMHO AKs blow so much gas out the piston tube it was hardly worth buying the suppressor mount for it, but you'll never be sure until you try. But big +1 to doing the concentricity check before you shoot it suppressed.

My AK (Draco C pistol made into an SBR) and mount had about the best concentricity check of any of my suppressed guns and still showed the largest POA/POI shift suppressed vs. unsuppressed I've seen so far -- something like 2" at 50 yards. OTOH my RRA NM AR was so close to failing the concentricity check that I debated long and hard before trying it, yet it had essentially no POA/POI shift at 100 yards using 10-shot groups.

I have no hope at 300 yards with iron sights now, but I do know that the cheap Wolf FMJ is easily capable of staying on a 10" plate at 300 yards if your rifle is up to it -- no trouble at all with my CMMG Mutant and a 5X scope once you figure out the drop & wind. Most of my AKs seem to shoot about 4 MOA with it, while my 7.62x39 ARs seems to be 2 MOA, or maybe a tad better -- I don't shoot much at paper except when sighting in a new optic or lot of ammo.

 

[Browning]

Do y'all think I could hit a 12" Gong at 300 yards with open sights and cheap ammo? Or is it a waste of effort.

Yes, you can hit with an AK at 300 yards. I've done it before and usually I'm limited to a max of 200 yards unless we're at the deer lease.

Edit : Here's some video evidence of someone else doing it with four different AK's. Four AK's, five shots, four hits at 300 (I actually thought I heard all five shots hit the plate, but they called that fourth shot a miss).



Mounting Optics On An AK. :

Samson makes a mount for an AK (RSR-1 I think) that replaces the rear sight. You can then replace the rear sight for that mount and either an Aimpoint Micro or a Primary Arms (50,000 hours on one battery) Micro.

I have one and it works great provided you're using a regular stock, mine are now both East German wire folders and that lowers your cheek weld while the micro is raised slightly. So I took it off and now it's sitting in a box simply because of the stocks I'm using (it's more important to me to be able to be able to fold them for storage and transport than put on an optic, so I'm selling it).

The advantage to it is that you now have an optic and it doesn't wobble like those dust cover mounts and so your group isn't wandering all over the target and it sits lower than a side mount.

The disadvantage is that even though you presumably have a dot sight where the battery lasts for a little longer than 5 years when it's just kept on continuously you no longer have a rear sight.

So it depends on how you're running it.

 

[SamT1]

Yes, you can hit with an AK at 300 yards. I've done it before and usually I'm limited to a max of 200 yards unless we're at the deer lease.

Edit : Here's some video evidence of someone else doing it with four different AK's. Four AK's, five shots, four hits at 300 (I actually thought I heard all five shots hit the plate, but they called that fourth shot a miss).



Mounting Optics On An AK. :

Samson makes a mount for an AK (RSR-1 I think) that replaces the rear sight. You can then replace the rear sight for that mount and either an Aimpoint Micro or a Primary Arms (50,000 hours on one battery) Micro.

I have one and it works great provided you're using a regular stock, mine are now both East German wire folders and that lowers your cheek weld while the micro is raised slightly. So I took it off and now it's sitting in a box simply because of the stocks I'm using (it's more important to me to be able to be able to fold them for storage and transport than put on an optic, so I'm selling it).

The advantage to it is that you now have an optic and it doesn't wobble like those dust cover mounts and so your group isn't wandering all over the target and it sits lower than a side mount.

The disadvantage is that even though you presumably have a dot sight where the battery lasts for a little longer than 5 years when it's just kept on continuously you no longer have a rear sight.

So it depends on how you're running it.

I like that mount!