Traditions revolver manufacturer

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The following has also been published on The Firing Line and Black Powder Times black powder forums:

The discussion (sometimes debate and, thankfully rarely, argument) in the black powder forums regarding what company is the 'better' manufacturer of firearms is seemingly endless. This is actually a good thing as it keeps the manufacturers aware that their customers continue to care about the quality of their offerings, and are not hesitant to make public any shortcomings.

Traditions does not provide the sources of their products on line or in the catalog. As a result, many people believe they are the original manufacturer of the products they sell and warranty. In fact, Traditions is a distributor, buying at wholesale from importers and selling to both other wholesalers and the retail market. This is a common and thoroughly legitimate business practice emphasizing skill in inventory control and logistics.

To bring a larger measure of accuracy to the discussion regarding manufacturer quality, it's important to 'lift the veil' as to the source of Tradition's products. Along those lines I recently asked them to divulge the manufacturer of their black powder revolver line; they responded directly and quickly to my request, providing the manufacturer's name. Unfortunately, the responding message contained a non-disclosure caveat prohibiting me from passing the answer along; I suspect the caveat was standard 'signature line' addition to all emails and probably not intended to have the effect it does in this case. Nonetheless, I'm bound to honor it.

I can say the manufacturer is a very large and popular company. Traditions does not remove the manufacturer's stamps from the guns, so anyone who has recently purchased a gun from Traditions can readily see who the manufacturer was; perhaps they could provide that information.

Lastly, I have to admit I'm puzzled by Tradition's policy of not naming the manufacturer in their catalog listings. Other retailers do so, and it would seem to me, at least in the case of the revolver manufacturer, that it would only be a positive selling point.
 
In skimming through on-line auction ads, I see that come models sold by CVA are identified as Pietta and some as ASM.
I'm puzzled - what does that have to do with Traditions?
 
Pancho said:
Mykeal, Is Traditions similar to Cold Steel in that they shop the manufacturers for the best deal for a given design?
Meaning that their revolvers could be made by one company, their long guns made by another?
Probably, but I really don't know. I simply asked them about their revolvers, frankly expecting them to not respond. I was pleasantly surprised when they did, and thought I'd pass it along - many folks believe, because they don't readily disclose the sources of their products, that they are primary manufacturers, and I wanted to set the record straight.

That said, I'm certain in my own mind that their long guns are not made by Pietta.

Pancho said:
I'd like to hear your response to another similar thread by Zimmerstutzen titled "Other makers of C&B Rev."
The German manufacturer he's talking about is Feinwerkbau. Both Feinwerkbau and Pedersoli produce a very expensive and very high quality Remington New Model Army (1858 Remington) replica revolvers, used by international match shooters. I have handled examples of each and they are very, very nice pieces. I have never had the pleasure of firing one, however, so I did not respond to his post directly - I have nothing I can really add to the discussion. However, given your request I'll post a copy of this response in his thread.
 
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Interesting thread I some way feel responsible for the start of this thread:D
interesting to know that traditions C&B revolvers are in fact manufactured by Pietta.

I learn something new from this site every day
I guess that is why I keep coming back:)
 
I think that a most important alternative bent on the OP's question might be to seek an answer about the history of the Traditions products sourcing.
Has the Traditions company always imported and resold Pietta manufactured cap and ball replica firearms -or- has there been a variety in thier offerings?
 
Revolvers with Pietta, Uberti, Armi San Marco and Palmetto stamps have been sold at various times in Tradtions' history. However, recent offerings are all Pietta.
 
You know that is really good to know because Bass Pro is selling the same Pietta revolvers that Cabelas sells just under a different trade name and for more money. I don't think that is very honest salesmanship on BPS part.

but then if it costs more it must be better , right?
:rolleyes:
you get what you pay for does not apply here.
 
Myeal: I have posted a request before concerning the "family trees" of the gun sold here by the manufacturers and importers. Also when ASM stopped production, did anyone take over the tooling and production under a different name. For instance for 30 years I have had an 1860 Navy repro sold by Western Arms, but also marked Armi San Marco. If I ever need a part, it would be nice to know what other companies' parts are compatible.

I have heard from two or three places that when Palmetto sold off their tooling for the Sharps rifle they made, the tooling and jigs were picked up by Pedersoli. If the parts from the Pedersoli Sharps fit my Garrett Sharps made by Palmetto, that would be very good information to have. Likewise if the Armi San Marco colt repro tooling is used by Pietta that would also be good to know for parts interchangeability.

So if I see a CVA or Traditions pistol for sale, it would be good to know if I can get parts, or if a marginal gun for shooting, whether I can use the parts and for what.
 
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