Transport to NYS

[S4Lee]

I'd like to be able to transport my handguns into NYS to shoot on some property that my family has in Sullivan County.

From what I can find, I need a permit to possess a handgun in NYS. Does anyone have any more info (links?) on how to get a non-resident permit (not for carry, just to be able to transport)? I will not be travelling through NYC.

Thanks!

 

[Morglan]

Unfortunately, (at least for now) there is no provision on the books for you to legally do what you want to do--unless you were to have a family member who is a resident of NY and a permit holder add the firearm to their permit, and then have the gun shipped from your FFL to theirs.

NY does not recognize any other states' permits, and I would even be careful about 'envoking' the federal regulation for peacable journey (or whatever it's called) when passing through the state. (Even though you'd be in the right, the idiots in charge here could make life difficult and expensive for you.)

 

[ctdonath]

There are no NY non-resident permits.

There is a narrow allowance in the law for non-residents bringing in handguns ONLY for NRA-sanctioned matches and training, and you'd better have all the supporting paperwork, including printed copies of the appropriate laws, to talk your way out of an arrest.

The federal FOPA allowance for "peaceable journey" may or may not be recognized in NY, and anyway does not protect anything beyond "just passin' thru".

Not a NY resident? no handgun for you in NYS.

 

[wnycollector]

It is a felony to possess a handgun in NYS unless you have a NYS pistol permit. You cannot even legally touch a handgun in NYS W/O possessing a permit.

 

[Jim K]

In NYC, a man talking to a police officer friend spotted a gun lying in the gutter. He picked it up and handed it to his cop friend, who promptly arrested him for illegal possession of a handgun and jailed him. So much for friendship and gun control, NYC style.

I guess he was lucky his "friend" didn't just shoot him, which it seems NYC cops are prone to do on the slightest provocation.

Jim

 

[Aguila Blanca]

NY does not recognize any other states' permits, and I would even be careful about 'envoking' the federal regulation for peacable journey (or whatever it's called) when passing through the state. (Even though you'd be in the right, the idiots in charge here could make life difficult and expensive for you.)

Correction: He would NOT be in the right.

The underlying premise of the FOPA is that possession of the firearm must be legal at the place where the journey begins and at the place where the journey ends. If he were driving from Florida to Vermont and passing through New York state, the FOPA would allow him to legally transport the firearm -- unloaded, and locked in the trunk or locked in a container intended for firearm transportation. He could not take the firearm out and shoot it.

Since the original poster in this case will be visiting relatives in New York State, if it is not legal for him to possess the handgun in New York state he is not entitled to rely on the FOPA to transport the gun from his living room to his garage. Possession isn't legal at the place where the journey ends ==> FOPA does not apply.

 

[Morglan]

Correction: He would NOT be in the right.

I understand your post, and it is correct--but the intent of my statement was in regards to someone who actually WAS passing through NYS to (and from) a state where they could legally own the pistol.

My point being, even though they were in the right ('protected' by the federal law that allows the pistol owner to pass through NYS), nearly any law enforcement officer in this state that (somehow) discovered the pistol in that person's vehicle would make life very difficult for that (law-abiding) gun-owner.

Personal experience has shown me that although many of the LEOs here (at the state, county and city level) are basically pro gun-owner, they tend to be clueless when it comes to actual laws on the books--as well as their jurisdiction related to enforcement.

(Case in point--it is the NYS Trooper's responsibility to enforce NYS version of the "Assault Weapons Ban", but those I have spoken about it with either don't realize it or don't know the law; and I have heard numerous reports--some here--that downstate city and county LEOs have commented that they feel it to be their responsibility to arrest anyone they find in possession of a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds--regardless of the date of manufacture.)

Jim Keenan--do you have a link to the story that you mentioned? (Sounds very much like an 'urban legend' to me...)

 

[S4Lee]

Hmmm, oh well then... time to look into possibly establishing some type of residency at the family's place and then applying for the pistol permits.

I'm OK with longguns, though, right?

Thanks for the replies.

 

[Morglan]

You should be fine with long guns, but be aware that NYS still has an assault weapons ban in effect worded exactly the same way as the federal ban was.