Travel Just About Anywhere Gun

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I've been thinking..Do I have anything that could work as a "travel anywhere" gun? I say this as something you could take across country for defense without having to re-route through "gun freindly" states.

My Glock 17. More than likely not as it has standard capacity mags.
AK clone..too evil
Scar 17. Again a no as I'm not sure all states allow them.
12 GA Rem. Tactical pump. Just maybe. Except it has an evil 6rd tube. I don't know...I'm thinking it should be leval everywhere?
Just about any handgun...getting caught in a license/permit state gives me a heache already.


Henry. 22 Lever Action. I think we have a winner? Not much for SD, but nasty with some CCI stingers and being tube fed, it should be ok just about anywhere.
 
A lever action in a non-military caliber should not only be good in all 50 states, but with some paperwork, Canada and Mexico too.

Maybe a revolver double or single action
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Not in NY without a pistol permit ;)
 
I agree that you'd be pretty much limited to a shotgun (not a semi-auto one) and a lever or bolt-action rifle or carbine with a fixed magazine. The latter being in .22 would assure even more "acceptance" in some places. Even more points if either was a single-shot.
 
I also keep a 16" Winchester 94 30-30 in my truck at all times. I do a lot of traveling and it rides in the seat next to me. Also keep a ruger vaquero in 45 colt in the truck with me.

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You really need to define what states you might travel in or through. In the vast majority of the states none of your guns is any more or less legal than another. In some areas you aren't allowed to possess any of them.

There's not a single part of the country where a single shot rifle is one iota more legal than a bolt gun or lever action.
 
I've never bought into the idea that some guns are more "innocent" looking than others. To the people who will throw you in jail for having it don't care what it looks like. A gun is a gun. Heck in school they kick you out for a chicken finger that looks like a gun. What is more innocent than a chicken finger?
 
Well a pump action shotgun with a 4-shot tube and standard stock will be fine in the vast majority of the country. But some areas like NYC, you need a permit for ANY firearm. Even a single shot. Yes, just to own. Don't even think about carrying.
So the pump gun will get you through the vast majority of the country. The other places, just pretend they don't exist and don't go there.
 
I was interested in this to for a long time. I eventually decided that a good mindset would help me survive a situation much better than any gun.

Not that I don't carry where permitted. :D

I also believe that it is impossible to find a gun that can travel in any state.

However, a Tazer actually by the brand Tazer is a formidable weapon cleared almost anywhere. I believe a good flashlight (Streamlight, SureFire) can be an amazing companion.
 
The real shame is that in terms of guns we are certainly not one country, and maybe never were. Some states, like NY, NJ or Mass. are so unfriendly to guns and gun owners that you take a real risk if you travel there armed with anything. Recently I had to travel to NY for a family wedding and after much thought ended up going totally disarmed. Nothing happened, and in fact I never even had a moment in the week long trip where I wished I had been armed, but I can't count on being lucky every time. Between my Utah concealed carry license, and my soon-to-have Illinois permit, at least I can travel to visit friends and family in Texas without a worry, only passing through Missouri and Oklahoma before entering Texas.
 
The focus seems to be on the most restrictive states or localities impeding the free passage of our country. Well, maybe we have to accept that you really can't just go anywhere you want with a firearm. We already do that with schools, Federal Court buildings, and any corporate franchise that displays a sign.

Not traveling to California or NYC isn't a major loss. We're talking high population density with no guns as a common regulatory theme, and I can't imagine a worse combination for a vacation or leisure choice. If they don't want me or my money, it's social Darwinism on their part.

Being around people creates the conditions of being outed with a gun, don't be around people and you don't have the problem. Or, in short, people = problem.

Maybe those extremist eco protesters have a point - if there were no people, we'd have no problems. :D
 
Do I have anything that could work as a "travel anywhere" gun? I say this as something you could take across country for defense without having to re-route through "gun freindly" states.
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Once more, the answer to that question is NO, because not every jurisdiction in the country allows unpermitted firearms possession.

However, as I said before, the vast majority of locations in this country do allow un-permitted possession of any of those guns, and all but a VERY few allow possession of lever-action rifles and pump shotguns.

Beyond simple possession in a home/domicile, though, you need to pay attention to exactly how EVERY state restricts possession or carry of firearms outside the home and/or while travelling. FOPA protects you while travelling through any state, so long as your gun is unloaded and locked away in a trunk or similar. But a gun so stored is 99% the same as NO gun for defensive purposes.

All that to say, do a little homework, plan well, and don't look for a universal answer which will leave you unprotected where you don't need to be, and not safe from the law where you should be.
 
If they ALL aren't legal in your destination (traveling through keep anything forbidden trunked as needed) I'd re-think your travel plans. That said, without encouraging you to break any laws how can this really matter so much unless the vacation is itself gun-related (ie. 3 gun comp, hunting, ect)? If discretion is the order of the day, keep it concealed and maintain a low profile but AGAIN maybe spend your vacation time and dollar in a place that welcomes you as a citizen?
 
Some cities prohibit possession any firearm without a permit therefore the only thing you could do in those is case and lock the case with ammunition separate from the case and try to follow the peaceable journey laws. We've already seen how badly those work when you're in some of those places (trying to leave via air and declaring firearms has gotten some people arrested and charged for possession without a permit).

There are no modern firearms you, or any of us, own that can be carried everywhere or transported at the ready and be in compliance with the most restrictive possession laws of several cities and in some states.
 
Single shot 20 guage shotgun, broken down when travelling of course, would fit the bill...
 
Single shot 20 guage shotgun, broken down when travelling of course, would fit the bill...
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Look, ONCE MORE, read the OP. He's asking what OF HIS GUNS qualify.

The proper answer is NONE.

Now, if you can justify why a single-shot 20 ga. is any more legal in ANY location, than a pump-action 12 ga., or a lever-action .22, go right ahead.

The idea that there's some strictly linear spectrum from single-shot .410 up to full-auto M2 for instance, that adequately describes legality from place to place is just not realistic.

The fact is there aren't very many restrictive places in this country but you do need to know the law, exactly, wherever you are. No other system of "maybes" and guesswork is at all worth while.
 
tyeo098 said:
A lever action in a non-military caliber should not only be good in all 50 states, but with some paperwork, Canada and Mexico too.


Not in NY without a pistol permit ;)
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What are the non military calibers? Im not being sarcastic, this is my first year of shooting and im still learning about all of this. I figured the military used every caliber..?
 
In SOME countries, citizens aren't allowed to own guns chambered in cartridges their militaries use. So 5.56NATO, 9mm, 7.62x39, stuff like that.

Probably 1/3 of the cartridges most folks could name have been used by some military force at one time. .45-70, .45ACP, .45Colt, .30-'06, 7mm Mauser, 8x57, .308/7.62 NATO, and on, and on.

However, that's COMPLETELY irrelevant in the US as no locality (that I've ever heard of, once) within the borders of the United States has any rule prohibiting civilian ownership of military cartridge guns.
 
What are the non military calibers? Im not being sarcastic, this is my first year of shooting and im still learning about all of this. I figured the military used every caliber..?
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I don't know that it matters here in the US at all. Certain European countries have restricted sales/ownership of calibers used by militaries.

5.56
7.62X39
7.62X51
9mm
.45acp

etc... are some common examples (though not an exhaustive list by any stretch) of "military cartridges."

Edit to add: Darn. Sam was faster on the trigger than I was!
 
Another variant of the overall concept is "Non-permissive Environment".

It rapidly becomes an overly constrained problem even in the US when you start factoring in jurisdictions that require a firearm owners permit or similar for any firearm possession.

Some of these places are being pushed back into the realm of the 2nd Amendment using the "recent" Supreme Court rules, but it's slow, expensive business.

I could enumerate specific states and cities that present/had such challenges in the US, but the fact some still exist is still the primary issue.
 
Your twelve gauge shotgun with a standard stock is likely fine.

There are certain states you should never go to.
 
For the record, Illinois treats a Taser or stun gun just like a firearm, because our legislature is fundamentally retarded.

Larry
 
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