Tresspassers and BP what to look for?

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Hi, I want to beat the tresspassers and hunt deer first on my own property. BP opens early. I bow hunt but converting to a gun asap would be nice especially a week before Jethro shows up. He and others WILL be there. :fire: Hopefully the game warden will nab them but as of yet no Joy.

So, Im a bit cheap and Im thinking used Gunshop or Pawnshop BP rifle. Under $200 even $150 would be great. I prefer something with a REAL wood stock and other than that as accurate as possible.

What in the heck am I looking for?!!! I see commercials on TV but it is just a blur to me. Some of it looks gimmicky and expensive. But, really Im oblivious. Where do I start?

I figure I better get with it now in order to know what Im doing by with proficiency by November.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.
 
As far as sidelocks go, if you can find a used TC rifle, they have a no nonsense life time warranty. TC will replace just about anything for free except maybe a neglected barrel. So bring a cleaning rod and tight fitting patches to check out the bore. Around here, there are minty TC's sidelocks on the used gun rack for about $179 plus tax.

Otherwise, the Traditions Deerhunter is a good value. They come in a kit with a wood stock, but the new production guns have a lighter plastic stock, fiber optic sights, and are also available with a durable nickel finish. The older wood stocked ones can be found used for under $100, while the new ones are priced between $129 - $179 depending on where you can find one.

Most other Traditions percussion rifles will usually be good shooters too.

Inline muzzleloaders are mostly for shooting sabots with, which are very accurate and effective for hunting, but not as easy to load as patched round balls are for plinking.
Are you thinking about getting an inline?

If you're interested, I still have this Minty CVA Grey Wolf for sale. It's intended more for shooting lead conicals or sabots. It has a heavier plastic monte carlo stock. I never shot it myself, but it was previously owned by a police firearms instructor. I'll sell it for $99 plus actual shipping. :)

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=259551
 
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Tempted

Thanks for the recommendations.

What is an inline?

That grey wolf is so cheap I am tempted. But I'll continue to look for wood. Maybe I'll get educated real quick.

Off to the pawn shops!
 
You know, when I first read the title of this thread, I was expecting something a lot... different... than the subject turned out to be about.

I was quite certain it was going to be a "What's the best BP gun for use on trespassers" kind of conversation. :eek: :evil: :D


J.C.
 
That Greywolf looks like a deal.
If that doesn't suit you check the CVA website for their seconds. I bought their low-end inline rifle for $80 shipped my door. They have some nicer ones for a little more, with actual wood stocks
 
Here's info. about a CVA recall notice from their website:

WARNING:

DO NOT USE CVA IN- LINE RIFLES WITH
95 OR 96 SERIAL NUMBERS
SERIOUS INJURY MAY RESULT
RECALL REMINDER

In 1997, Connecticut Valley Arms, Inc., voluntarily implemented a recall of in-line muzzleloading rifles manufactured in 1995 and 1996. If you currently own or possess a CVA in-line rifle with a 95 or 96 serial number, or you purchased one or gave it or sold it to another person, and the barrel has not been replaced, you should contact a Company Representative immediately by calling the customer service number below:

1-770-449-4687(8:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. EST)

To identify the rifle, read the serial number on the barrel opposite the firing bolt. The only CVA rifles subject to the voluntary recall are in-line models with serial numbers ending with the last two digits of 95 or 96. No other firearm models within the CVA product line are affected by the voluntary recall.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Blackpowder Products, Inc. purchased the assets of Connecticut Valley Arms, Inc. in May, 1999. Blackpowder Products, Inc. assumed no liability for any product manufactured or sold prior to January 1, 1998. Blackpowder Products, Inc. is continuing the Connecticut Valley Arms, Inc. recall. Please do not return your in-line rifle before contacting a Company Representative at 1-770-449-4687.
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http://www.cva.com/docs/recall.htm
 
I second the TC recommendation

Look for a good TC hawkin, renegade, cherokee, etc. - 45 caliber and up. The 45 will have 1:48 twist and shoot the conical type bullets well - making it a thumper. Ditto on the 50 and a 54 will do fine with anything for whitetail - including the patched round ball.

TC's have wood, excellent steel and sturdy, adjustable sights. You can also get adjustable aperture (peep) sights for them but that's really not needed for most deer hunting IMHO.

As to your "visitors", I would suggest investing in a good day/night "flashless" game camera - especially if you know where they are most likely to come calling. Just be sure to camoflage it well so they don't see it and take it. That will give you a picture of the aresholes which you can then take to the game warden. He may recognize them... And you can also use your new toy for checking the deer trails - great way to pre-season scout for Mr. big buck :D
 
I found something at least temporary

I agree about the trail cam. I wanted one long ago but figured it would disapear toothless mug shots and all. I would prefer land mines, but thats all complicated !

About the gun. Ultimately I think I want to look for something Thompson. That would look right for my tastes and be better quality than most of what I saw in the last couple of days. In the meantime I just finished 2 days of pawnshop searches.
I found and bought what seems to be a super cheap product, but I also got it super cheap so I guess thats ok. Of course it IS plastic stocked. Its a CVA Eclipse 50 cal. $25.00 including tax!!:D need to buy a new nipple for it and a front sight (think I have something that will work)..and of course I'll have to buy array of goodies ,but now I can afford to do so.

It looks unfired in and out. They guy at the shop assumed it was broken and I did think it was something I would have to fix. Turns out the dweeb who pawned it put the bolt in upside down. Functions perfect now. Sure is light, probably a mule kick substitute.

This will get me started and I assume that as long as I take care of it I surely can get my $25.00 back!!

Can I really find a Thompson in the $200 range?
 
I'd make sure whatever game camera you get is flashless, and I wouldn't get an expensive one because of the risks of it getting stolen with tresspassers and all. Placement may be tricky, as you will want the best shot of them from somewhere where they will not notice it.
 
I second the Motion activated camera set up. we caught and successfully prosecuted three thugs who were poaching and trespassing and vandalizing our property.

When your opening line was BP and trespassers, I was going yup, pop can, BP and buckshot......oh yeah.... um....... nevermind....
 
People who tresspass onto anothers land and hunt without permission are called poachers. In TEXAS they are called TARGETS!!!


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