Trip through anti-gun states, how carry?

[Nytelyte]

I'm looking for some advice on how to make a trip I have planned. I'll be leaving Ohio and basically making a trip around the United States on a motorcycle. I have an Ohio CCW, and will be filing for a Florida one shortly. This still leaves a few states through which I'll be traveling, most notably Oregon, Wisconson, Illinois, and Cali, either do not honor my permits or are anti-gun in general. What is the best legal way to transport my firearm through those states? My bike does not have 'lockable' attached storage, but I could get a little 'Safe' http://http://www.center-of-mass.com/Images/CarSafe/LSideView1911.jpg That could be put into the bottom of the tailbag, with the magazines in the tankbag. Then it would be 'locked up', and the ammunition in a separate compartment.

Any thoughts? Would that be sufficient? Where should I go to get better information? Considered calling a highway patrol post in each of those states to see if they could let me know, but firearm information that I have recieved from officers in the past has been notoriously unreliable.
Attached is an almost exact image of what my bike setup is, except my bike is blue, and the tailbag and tankbag are going to be slightly larger.
If it comes to it, I'm going to take this trip unarmed, but that is really not my preference. Long miles + camping + motorcycle + alone = want to be armed.


Thanks in advance!

 

[glockman19]

Oregon, open carry
Wisconson, Illinois, and Cali, locked in case unloaded.

 

[AirForceShooter]

This site is kind of cool.

http://www.carryconcealed.net/packngo/index.php

AFS

 

[Hook686]

Keep in mind, only a judge legally adjudicates the law, otherwise it is mere opinion. I wonder though why you solicite web site opinion, when you are adverse to Hiway Patrol opinion in each of the states you reference.

In any event, you might contact:

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/

for an opinion from California. I keep thinking there might be something about the guns and ammunition being accessable to the vehicle operator. Might be wise to carefully check on this, as two locking California Approved locking cases (California approves of the trunk of a car as 1 locking case) might be needed. Good luck, and enjoy your trip ... just be careful out there.

 

[Winchester 73]

These 2 sites will be very helpful:
http://www.handgunlaw.us
http://www.usacarry.com

And in evil states like Wisconsin and Illinois there's always FOPA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/926A.html

 

[isp2605]

For IL - unloaded and in a case.
Go down about 2/3 of the way on the page.
http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/firearmsfaq.cfm

 

[Wedge]

DO NOT BRING A HANDGUN INTO NEW YORK STATE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!

I know you didn't mention that on your list, but avoid the state at all if you are armed. Effectively cuts off New England.

 

[Nytelyte]

I wonder though why you solicite web site opinion, when you are adverse to Hiway Patrol opinion in each of the states you reference.

Not adverse to, just leery of. Same as the info I get from here, I'll be verifying anything that is posted. Most of the time when I've talked to officers, they've been misinformed or abusive of law. I was pulled over, was armed, followed my procedure. Officer 'secured' my firearm, I questioned, was told 'Its the law that I disarm you' (his words). Yea. Ok. Do what you need to do to feel as comfortable as possible. Don't make up your version of the law to do it.
But this board is presented as a valid place for research and a tool for gathering information. Like what you followed with, I didn't know two cases are required in Cali. I'll have to check into that, and possibly make plans for it.

I know about handgunlaw.us. Thats where I built the 'map' for the abovementioned no no states.

DO NOT BRING A HANDGUN INTO NEW YORK STATE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!

No plans, need, nor desire to. Visit, that is.

Oregon, open carry..... Hmmmm.... I'd probably be better off with it locked in a tank bag. I'd like to make this trip with as little officer interaction as possible.

With these considerations in mind, it is advisable for travelers with firearms to maintain a low profile while passing through any such states that have severe restrictions on gun ownership.

Trip is going to be Dayton -- Mt. Rushmore -- Redwood National Park -- Grand Canyon -- New Orleans -- Deals Gap -- back to Dayton. ~7000 miles, should be a good time.

 

[Nytelyte]

This site is kind of cool.

http://www.carryconcealed.net/packngo/index.php

AFS

Ok, THAT is spiffy. Thanks!

 

[Nytelyte]

Federal Firearms Transportation Statute
The federal firearms transportation statute basically states that you are allowed to transport a legally owned firearm through any state as long as you meet the following requirements.

1. Your weapon is kept unloaded and stored in a separate compartment not readily accessible by either the driver or passengers.

2. Any ammunition is kept separate from location of firearms and is also not readily accessible by either the driver or passengers.

If there is not a separate compartment available in the vehicle then the firearm must be kept in a locked container and stored somewhere other than the glove box or console.

Would in the little safe in the tailbag be considered "in a locked container and stored somewhere other than the glove box or console." ? It kinda sounds like that last bit is exactly what applies to what I'm trying to do.

 

[ColinthePilot]

When I moved from FL to TX, I had the same desire to go armed and I was pretty sure that my permit was recognized in all the affected states. I still called the State Police in each state to confirm my permit was good, and while I was on the phone, I got the Troopers' names and badge numbers just in case the LEO pulling me over wasn't familiar.
When I would make trips from FL back home to MD, every state except MD and SC recognized my permit. SC did allow loaded carry in the vehicle and I stopped just before I entered MD, locked up the gun with the empty mags, and tossed the ammo in a suitcase in the bed of the truck. (I think loaded mags are a no-no in some states.) No stops, but I think that would have avoided the issue.

 

[Dorryn]

That looks like an uncomfortable bike to cross-country on. Seriously.

DO NOT BRING A HANDGUN INTO NEW YORK STATE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!

This kind of statement makes me glad to have a NYS CCW permit. I cant go far... but im more free in NY than most.

 

[Dorryn]

double-post. Ack.

 

[Nytelyte]

That looks like an uncomfortable bike to cross-country on. Seriously.

Bah!
I'm short, so its not a crunched up reach like it look like it would be. The windscreen puts the airflow at the top of my chest, so my head isn't bobbled about and the 'cushion' of air actually supports me @ highway speeds, so I'm not on my wrists so much.

+ Its cool in itself to be roadtripping on a sportbike.

 

[kfranz]

WI isn't anti-gun, just anti-CCW. Unloaded and in a case, as has already been mentioned.