TSA weighs gun ban at airports

[SCKimberFan]

"Maybe they should just come out and say it: "We don't like the law abiding peons being better equipped to stop crimes than our walkie-talkie packin' whiteshirts. It's a buzzkill to our God-complex."

+1 That about says it all.

 

[Old Grump]

Oh Glory Be!

Let us make another location safe for crazed asylum escapee's to come to for a massive shooting spree with a minimum amount of danger to themselves. Not to mention the airlines are already shutting down slowly because of over regulation and high prices.

 

[Sebastian the Ibis]

I arrived in Ft. Lauderdale yesterday from Columbia. Not only did they not search my bag they forgot to stamp my passport! I don't think the guy even looked at it.

What the heck ever happened to just having people do their jobs and enforce the laws they were supposed to enforce. Everything is bloody policy now and trying to make people feel good by passing laws that will never be enforced. I for one would feel much better if gov't employees just did their job and enforced the laws they were supposed to enforce.

 

[One of Many]

The solution to the whole airport problem is for people to just quit taking airplanes to get from point A to point B. With the improvements in communication technology today, a lot of business that used to require face to face meetings can be handled by video conference, and documents can be faxed or converted to PDF form and sent by Internet. That will save a lot of fuel as well. It used to be that only the rich could afford air travel, until the government stepped in to try making it available for the common masses. The situation is now that the government is trying to prevent the common masses from flying, and doing a good job of dissuading people. Who wants to give up their natural and civil rights just to get someplace a few hours quicker. Take a train, or drive a car. Forget the airport and the thugs with their personal security destroying body probes.

 

[brickeyee]

I arrived in Ft. Lauderdale yesterday from Columbia. Not only did they not search my bag they forgot to stamp my passport! I don't think the guy even looked at it.

They have not been stamping US citizen passports on return for a couple years now.
All it does is take up space.

 

[LegalAlien]

The REAL problem here is caused by Atlanta Hartsfield airport.

They passed the monkey to the TSA, requesting them to extend the TSA policy and control to non-secure areas of the airport. TSA is now having this monkey jump around on it's shoulder and Hartsfield is sitting back.

The real bad guys here is the Atlanta Police and Hartsfield security who does not like the idea of the change in the GA carry laws and are now trying to find other ways to block it.

I can see both the TSA, Hartsfield and Atlanta police facing some legal challenges based on Heller.

 

[siglite]

I bet every one of us has voted for someone that supports the TSA on capitol hill. And the BATFE.

We keep electing the clowns that do this to us.

 

[shdwfx]

Remember, the TSA is executive branch and ultimately answers to the President.

Keep that in mind when people say it doesn't matter which candidate gets elected, and expect a lot more human excrement like this if a buddy of Dick Daley's gets the title "Mr. President."

 

[jrfoxx]

Hartsfield spokesman Herschel Grangent said that someone firing a gun in the airport would force a massive evacuation that could disrupt flights nationwide.

"...and all we have to do is enact a policy, and put up some 'no guns' signs on the doors, and then it could never happen, because no one who wanted to kill people would DARE ignore our policy and signs, so we will all finally be safe."

 

[Cosmoline]

Airports are a dark vision for future America--a vision many in power on both sides of the spectrum would like to see put in place nationwide. There's a guard on every corner, a camera watching every movement, and no messy freedom to get in the way. It's no surprise that banning firearms at airports would be easy.

As it stands now, airports are a freedom pinch point--a place where our freedoms are diminished so we can be more easily controlled. Like livestock moving through a narrow passage for counting. We can expect to see more of these pinch points created in the decades to come.

I wish I could say voting for X over Y would end this. But it was an allegedly conservative Repub who created TSA to begin with, and who is doing nothing to quash these moves or limit the power of the entity.

 

[TallPine]

Another issue is that in order to rent a car, you generally need to go to the airport to get it whether you are flying or not.

A few months ago I rented a car to drive 1-way to Texas so that I could bring another car back. It was a little cheaper even than flying, didn't take much longer, and of course I could take along a firearm without jumping through any hoops.

 

[publiuss]

TSA Atlanta

 

[LoadedDrum]

OT but this thread made me think of the no carry signs I saw at the bars in terminals of Sea-Tac. I could not help but think ***, who do they thinking is carrying past the security check points?

 

[Valkman]

I just crack up seeing the term "secured area" at an airport. If they were truly secure it'd be one thing but we find out all the time they are not. I dislike "Unarmed Victim Zones" so I don't even think about flying anymore. If this goes through at Atlanta then I'll really have no reason to go near an airport.

 

[acdodd]

OT but this thread made me think of the no carry signs I saw at the bars in terminals of Sea-Tac. I could not help but think ***, who do they thinking is carrying past the security check points?

A few years ago when I worked at SeaTac they caught a waiter in an A concourse bar with a loaded gun.
He simply went through his normal door into the bag well.
he had a badge and nobody checked us.
He was visiting a waitress he was hot for.
He went to jail.
They probably put up the signs after that.
Or it is another stupid Washington state law.
AC

 

[dsoine]

I'd sure like to see state legislatures get more proactive (pro-self defense) in that area. Since so many airports are city run many are at the mercy of the antis. I noticed our local "big city" airport was recently posted no CW - very disappointing.

best,

Dave