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Tsra/nra alert for texas pro-gun legislation

Discussion in 'Activism' started by Bartholomew Roberts, Mar 14, 2011.

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  1. Bartholomew Roberts

    Bartholomew Roberts Moderator Emeritus

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    From the NRA-ILA:

    Please contact your Representatives and Senators if you have not already, passing the parking lot bill is going to be a challenge and we will not see it happen unless we let them know that is what we want.
     
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    Already done so. It is an object lesson that the power of business money trumps the talk from some so-call gun right supporting 'conservatives'. Note that the TSRA clearly indicates that Coyote Perry didn't take the opportunity to push the legislation. As Ms. Tripp states if this fails we can't blame the left anymore.
     
  3. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Still not too late to get your voice heard if you haven't yet ;)
     
  4. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Good news from NRA-ILA and TSRA regarding the pro-RKBA bills mentioned above:

    So, the fight isn't over yet; but your calls to the Senate helped get it done there and your calls to the House can still help get it done. So if you contacted your Senator, thank you! And if you haven't, there is still time to contact your House rep.
     
  5. Flintknapper

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    Unless you happen to work for the school system or an Oil/Gas company on a lease. They keep leaving that part out. ;)

    Somehow...those two groups got thrown under the bus (I mean...a compromise was made).

    If the bill passes and is signed into law...perhaps we can make more inroads later.

    Please call your committee members and urge them pass the bill without further amendments.
     
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    We are getting pressure on them.
     
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    I have called and written both my Congressman and my State Senator and asked each to co-sponsor or at least support these Bills.
    No reply as yet, and I will keep that in mind come next election cycle... :mad:
     
  8. Bartholomew Roberts

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    The school system exception was necessary to comply with the federal Gun-Free School Zones Act unfortunately.

    I don't know about the oil/gas lease exception; but I would guess the problem there is that the oil/gas company doesn't actually own the land but just leases it from someone else and in many cases the companies are contractually bound by the terms of the oil & gas lease not to allow their employees to carry firearms on the leased lands. That can place the oil company in the position of violating the lease; but then the state law would prevent them from punishing the employee that just cost them a lease.

    I think the oil/gas lease exception is workable if you figure out a way to handle the problems between provisions in the private contract between Lessor/Lessee that don't penalize the Lessee. I think we are stuck with the school exception until the federal law changes.
     
  9. TexasRifleman

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    That's exactly the problem. The state cannot force a landowner to accept provisions that were not in the original lease. Most oil and gas leases I've seen specifically prohibit firearms because of way too many incidents of midnight poaching. Landowners started demanding that provision themselves. The state can't override that.

    That exception isn't going away and I don't believe one can even make the argument that it should go away.

    This bill is for parking lots, not every possible place an employee may be.
     
  10. Flintknapper

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    Bartholomew Roberts wrote:


    Well...that is PART of the reason, since currently CHL's are excepted (unless the lot is posted 30.06) or if the firearm is unloaded AND locked in a container or gun rack.


    That is exactly the reason. It causes a problem for Gas/Oil companies. It is NOT because of illegal hunting problems (not that it doesn't exist). That is simply a "guise" under which the Oil/Gas companies seek to pass this legislation. If there are problems with poaching/illegal hunting (and there is some), then that is a problem for the Texas Parks & Wildlife Dept. to handle.

    We don't need to legislate that! The Oil/Gas companies have found this a convenient way to "point the finger" at "poachers" instead of admitting to their employees that they purposely threw them under the bus...for sake of making business easier to do. Plain and simple.


    Agreed. I am not certain exactly what needs to be done, but I do know ANYTHING can be negotiated into a lease. I did not exclude firearms from my property as a condition of my lease agreement, but some folks do.


    Yes, unfortunately it is contentious with State law many places. The good thing is, LEO are not normally "up to date" with Federal Law, so much of it goes unpracticed unless a DA gets a hold of a case they really want to press.
     
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    Right, but the state can't come in later and mandate an amendment to your lease, and that's what this law would basically do. As a property owner you wouldn't be very happy with that would you?
     
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