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I also thought that the factory CC on my Miroku 1892 was sufficient until my 1873 returned from Turnbull; now, my 1892 looks (to me) like a cheap, iridescent coating. In turn, my 1892 is at the Winchester Arnold, MO warrantee facility for the 2nd time in seven months for cosmetic problems to include the second time returned because the factory CC rubs off the frame very easily - bare steel quickly appears with a gun oil wipe down - the CC just wipes off - I am interested to see what action Winchester takes with this rifle and it’s second return for the same problem - the factory CC just does not stick to the frame.
Anyway, now it is obvious to me that there is no comparison between Miroku and Turnbull CC - with both these CC processes and as with most costs in life, I got what I paid for from both Miroku and Turnbull.
 
I also thought that the factory CC on my Miroku 1892 was sufficient until my 1873 returned from Turnbull; now, my 1892 looks (to me) like a cheap, iridescent coating. In turn, my 1892 is at the Winchester Arnold, MO warrantee facility for the 2nd time in seven months for cosmetic problems to include the second time returned because the factory CC rubs off the frame very easily - bare steel quickly appears with a gun oil wipe down - the CC just wipes off - I am interested to see what action Winchester takes with this rifle and it’s second return for the same problem - the factory CC just does not stick to the frame.
Anyway, now it is obvious to me that there is no comparison between Miroku and Turnbull CC - with both these CC processes and as with most costs in life, I got what I paid for from both Miroku and Turnbull.

I wouldn't call Miroku rifles cheap. The three I have are half again as expensive as their Uberti counterparts.
 
The CC coating on my 1892 looks cheap compared to Turnbull CC - the rifle is not cheap - I agree that Miroku product is not cheap.
 
I’m not an AR fan, but Google “Turnbull wood stocked AR-15” to see what they can do case coloring an AR.
 
I wouldn't call Miroku rifles cheap. The three I have are half again as expensive as their Uberti counterparts.

No offense but if we are talking 73's they are half again more and half as good. I own many of both so I can vouch for the quality of each. Not taking anything away from Miroku in general because they make great guns but their 73's leave a ton to be desired if a person is into historic accuracy and particular about fit and cosmetics. They really dropped the ball on the new Winchester 73's
 
No offense but if we are talking 73's they are half again more and half as good. I own many of both so I can vouch for the quality of each. Not taking anything away from Miroku in general because they make great guns but their 73's leave a ton to be desired if a person is into historic accuracy and particular about fit and cosmetics. They really dropped the ball on the new Winchester 73's


We are going to have to agree to disagree. I would ask you what you find .... "unhistoric" about Miroku 1873s. I am aware of the "inertia ignition system" in the newer rifles and I do not care about that.

I have Uberti rifles, a saddle ring carbine and a short rifle, and could point out minor differences between those and original Winchester 1873s as well. But I still think Uberti makes excellent repros ~ ~ ~ ~ even if I think their color case hardening is often less than terrific.
 
Maybe Miroku’s target design was not that of historical accuracy - I agree that your observation is accurate and that the Miroku’s product is as they designed it.
 
I have been thinking about sending my 94 and colt python to them, I think it would look real good.
 
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