TV show on "bullets," now
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Stickjockey
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That the "Tales of the Gun" installment on Bullets and Ammo?
J.J.
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I noticed the anti gun slant at the end though
All things considered, it was a pretty good show, give it a solid "B" (though I missed the anti-gun slant at the end--I thought it ended with the 1,000,000-round-per-minute system that seemed no louder than a blender). Stickjockey, I don't know if it was part of the "Tales of the Gun" series or not, but I'd guess not. I'm pretty sure I've seen all of those shows, and there seemed to be a lot of new stuff in this show.
And for dessert, the History Channel followed "The Bullet" with "The Magnum." Now, I'll be the first to admit these shows aren't perfect, but you've still got to like the History Channel.
And for dessert, the History Channel followed "The Bullet" with "The Magnum." Now, I'll be the first to admit these shows aren't perfect, but you've still got to like the History Channel.
Mulliga
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Showing "The M16" after that - wonder what they'll say about reliability 
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.Mulliga
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LOL - they just called the M16 the most powerful assault rifle ever made .
.Chuck Jennings
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Also having a show about magnums afterward. There was a show on bulletproof materials before the bullet show too.
It must be some kind of gun nut marathon!
It must be some kind of gun nut marathon!
timbo
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Well, the history channel tends to run all the gun shows in one run, tonight is one of them. Every once in a while you'll see these runs.
Carlos
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Watched all three of the "Modern Marvels" shows tonight.
Amazing, huh?
Amazing, huh?
J.J.
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Err excuse me the bullet proof material one did. I got confused. But what do you expect it was about bullet proof material eh.
dukeofurl
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I noticed several things.
North Hollywood robbers were described as shooting .223 and .308.
The show explained that the military specifies caliber by millimeter - such as 5.56. Then went on to state that some military rifles are .308. I guess they didnt want to say 7.62x51.
The 357 magnum round shown was a dummy - blown primer and seated a new round. You could see the crimp mark too.
North Hollywood robbers were described as shooting .223 and .308.
The show explained that the military specifies caliber by millimeter - such as 5.56. Then went on to state that some military rifles are .308. I guess they didnt want to say 7.62x51.
The 357 magnum round shown was a dummy - blown primer and seated a new round. You could see the crimp mark too.
Kentucky Rifle
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I missed the caliber, but it wasn't a small bullet. The guy who had a layer of bullet-proof material over his chest--remember that little demonstration? He just pulls out a big revolver and, from a distance of about a foot--SHOOTS HIMSELF in the chest! The projectile didn't penetrate, but by the look on his face you could tell that this was his~ "Wow, I shouldn't have done THAT" moment. Looked to me like doing something like that could easily break a rib. (Or worse.) <shudder>
KR
P.S.<snicker> He wasn't wearing hearing protection either.
KR
P.S.<snicker> He wasn't wearing hearing protection either.
Lobotomy Boy
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I've seen most, if not all of History Channel's gun programs. Often they will recut one episode and edit it into another. For example, about half the Magnum show on Modern Marvels was shown in an episode devoted to the .357 Magnum on "Tales of the Gun."
Unfortunately this leads to contradictory information. For example, on Magnum one fellow was referring to the origins of the term and specifically stated it was first used to describe a handgun. I believe this was taken from the .357 Magnum episode of Tales of the Gun. In the next scene another fellow states that the first usage of the term "Magnum" came from British big game hunters in Africa in the late 19th century.
Another thing that bugged me was that the talking heads kept mentioning tigers when discussing hunting big game in Africa. To quote Monty Python, "A tiger? In Africa?"
These are nits and I am glad History has the nads to run these shows. I've recently had some bad experiences with Discovery Channel regarding guns. Last fall I published a book called "Art of the Chopper." In this book there appears a portrait of chopper builder Pat Kennedy holding a KP90D. Being a Ruger guy, I liked this photo a lot.
But because I selected this image, the feces hit the fan. Discovery cancelled an order for 4000 copies for their stores because of the photo with a gun in it. They didn't care that Mr. Kennedy is a licensed peace officer in the state of California. Our senior vice president of publishing is an anti-gun Brit and he caved. When the book was reprinted the gun photo was replaced to placate the candy-@$$ed mofos at Discovery.
So you if you happen across a copy of the book featuring a photo of Pat Kennedy holding a KP90D in a Barnes & Nobles or Borders, buy it. The book will probably be in print for many years, but only the first run will have the gun photo.
Unfortunately this leads to contradictory information. For example, on Magnum one fellow was referring to the origins of the term and specifically stated it was first used to describe a handgun. I believe this was taken from the .357 Magnum episode of Tales of the Gun. In the next scene another fellow states that the first usage of the term "Magnum" came from British big game hunters in Africa in the late 19th century.
Another thing that bugged me was that the talking heads kept mentioning tigers when discussing hunting big game in Africa. To quote Monty Python, "A tiger? In Africa?"
These are nits and I am glad History has the nads to run these shows. I've recently had some bad experiences with Discovery Channel regarding guns. Last fall I published a book called "Art of the Chopper." In this book there appears a portrait of chopper builder Pat Kennedy holding a KP90D. Being a Ruger guy, I liked this photo a lot.
But because I selected this image, the feces hit the fan. Discovery cancelled an order for 4000 copies for their stores because of the photo with a gun in it. They didn't care that Mr. Kennedy is a licensed peace officer in the state of California. Our senior vice president of publishing is an anti-gun Brit and he caved. When the book was reprinted the gun photo was replaced to placate the candy-@$$ed mofos at Discovery.
So you if you happen across a copy of the book featuring a photo of Pat Kennedy holding a KP90D in a Barnes & Nobles or Borders, buy it. The book will probably be in print for many years, but only the first run will have the gun photo.
grnzbra
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I thought that the guy from Metal Storm was interesting. He poited out that the fastest a mechanical gun can fire is about 6k rounds per minute while his company's little toy could hit 1m rounds per minute. Later on, the announcer said that the metalstorm defice could fire 160 rounds in so many miliseconds and that would translate out to 1M+ rpm.
So, let me see if I've got this right. With a mechanical gun I can get up to 6k rpm for as long as I can feed it ammo and the gun doesn't break while with his gun, I get 160 rounds at 1M rounds per minute and that's it. He thinks this is an improvement? (This is the same company that thinks smart gun technology is sweeping across the shooting ranges of the US)
So, let me see if I've got this right. With a mechanical gun I can get up to 6k rpm for as long as I can feed it ammo and the gun doesn't break while with his gun, I get 160 rounds at 1M rounds per minute and that's it. He thinks this is an improvement? (This is the same company that thinks smart gun technology is sweeping across the shooting ranges of the US)
artherd
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grnzbra- you need to buy more of his guns
I agree with you, right now they're just neat. But dosen't most great new technology starts out as a lab toy first?
PS: some 5.56mm gatlings get up to 10,000round/min
PPS: You can't keep a gatling going indefinately either, unless you have an excellent cooling system for it.
I agree with you, right now they're just neat. But dosen't most great new technology starts out as a lab toy first?
PS: some 5.56mm gatlings get up to 10,000round/min
PPS: You can't keep a gatling going indefinately either, unless you have an excellent cooling system for it.
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I'm having a hard time seeing how 1 million bullets fired at the exact same time at the exact same target will kill that target any deader than would 30 bullets.
J.J.
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after 1 million bullets i have ask myself.. what target...it was just here a minute ago
grnzbra
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It would be kinda neat for experimentation. Let's see drill a bunch of holes in the barrel of a black powder gun and fill them with little spark plugs which are fired in succession from some source. Load a bunch of loads in the barrel, making sure that the powder charges are aligned properly with the spark plugs. Pull the trigger, and the gun is empty. Excuse me folks while I reload. Be back in 20 minutes.
I think it's an expensive, high tech version of a claymore mine with greater range. However, when the claymore fires, I don't believe there's anything useful for the enemy to use; when this thing fires, it's sitting there to be picked up, reloaded and used against us.
Yeah, that's what I said, "As long as I keep feeding it ammo and the gun doesn't break"
Everyone seems concerned about this lock requirement on gun sales that they just amended to the frivolous law suit prevention act. That's nothing compared to what's coming out of PRNJ; this gun (actually the handgun also featured on the show) with "smart" technology. It's always turned off until you manage to turn it on. Oh, there are problemse with it? Too bad, our AG has declared it perfected so now you're stuck with it. I have no problem with new technology, which will be perfected with time (I remember when everyone was trashing the M-16 - with good cause). I just don't want to be stuck with it beforehand.
I think it's an expensive, high tech version of a claymore mine with greater range. However, when the claymore fires, I don't believe there's anything useful for the enemy to use; when this thing fires, it's sitting there to be picked up, reloaded and used against us.
Yeah, that's what I said, "As long as I keep feeding it ammo and the gun doesn't break"
Everyone seems concerned about this lock requirement on gun sales that they just amended to the frivolous law suit prevention act. That's nothing compared to what's coming out of PRNJ; this gun (actually the handgun also featured on the show) with "smart" technology. It's always turned off until you manage to turn it on. Oh, there are problemse with it? Too bad, our AG has declared it perfected so now you're stuck with it. I have no problem with new technology, which will be perfected with time (I remember when everyone was trashing the M-16 - with good cause). I just don't want to be stuck with it beforehand.
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