U.K. Prices!

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Thats what you have to charge when you can sell only one gun every other month.

There are just not many people who are allowed to buy them there.
 
Let's see...This summer my son went to the British Isles, and the pond was worth $1.57 USD (when we bought his currency.)

Today, it is 1.00 GBP = $1.597 (call it $1.60) USD.

So....650.00 GBP x $1.60 USD = $1,040.00 USD.
 
I've seen worse. It's about double what they cost us. But it's all relative. In lots of third world countries, you can get an AK and a case of ammo for less than $100 USD.
 
You should compare the GB to the US average income as well in your math..
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Swiss gun collector and shooter.. and proud of it !
Geneva is not about conventions. It's where I live ;)

Does anyone have current information? I believe that the GB income is pretty close to the same as the USA. I also know that yours in Switzerland is quite a bit higher than the USA.
 
Well if I remember correctly there's import duty (10% i think) and VAT to add (17.5%) plus shipping...then the dealer has to make some profit on it !

For info:

100 rounds 2007 surplus RG 62g 5.56 costs around £30
100 rounds of Wolf 9mm is £17
100 Privi 168g Match is now £59

New manufacture .50BMG tracer is £5 per round.

Surplus .50BMG ball costs me £2.20 a round

More typical Privi ammo prices here:

http://www.henrykrank.com/ppu.html

A new Ruger 10/22 is around £270
Sako TRG-22 starts at around £2200


http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/products/Guns_Rifles/pagestart/0/

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Steven
 
Well if I remember correctly there's import duty (10% i think) and VAT to add (17.5%) plus shipping...then the dealer has to make some profit on it !

And I'm sure our country is adding a little export duty in there as well, along with shipping across the "Pond".

When you factor they also make $1.60 for every dollar we do, it all becomes relative - no different than Hawaii, Alaska, Puerto Rico, or the USVI
 
And no, British salaries are not even close to US saleries, they are generally quite a bit lower. I just returned from London on Saturday from my first trip this year, I usually make 3-4 a year to visit the office there.

As an example, a senior oil and gas engineer making $150k per year here will make around 80k per year in Pounds, or around $120k, about 20% less. And everything in the UK is more expensive than here, by a lot.
 
As an example, a senior oil and gas engineer

I was thinking of a more common job..

but maybe you are right.. at least OUR average income seems much higher than the one in the US, but things here (everything) are a lot more expensive..
 
And I'm sure our country is adding a little export duty in there as well

Taxes on exports are unconstitutional. Article I, Section 9: "No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State."
 
You can even get a supressor in the U.K. without any extra hassle. When will our legislators wake up and realize these are safety devices, not assassins tools. I'm so glad Hollywood aids in making our firearms laws. Puke
 
You can even get a supressor in the U.K. without any extra hassle. When will our legislators wake up and realize these are safety devices, not assassins tools. I'm so glad Hollywood aids in making our firearms laws. Puke

In the UK you need to apply for permission to purchase each individual gun. For each gun you need to demonstrate a 'good reason' for wanting to possess it e.g. "1x .240 rifle, deer hunting," "1x .308 rifle, target shooting," etc.

Suppressors are treated the same as a firearm, so you apply for permission to possess a suppressor (or a specified number of suppressors) in a particular caliber or calibers (need a good reason for each one). Good reason would certainly be for use when hunting, but you may have no luck if you just want a suppressor for target shooting. This depends on the police force in your area and how gun-friendly they are.

The idea that suppressors are easier to get in the UK than the USA is a bit of a fallacy. In order to get one you need to:

Fill out an application form

Have two referees sign the form stating that you are suitable to own firearms

Supply several photographs of yourself

Sign, and have your referees sign, the photographs stating that they are a true and current likeness of yourself

State a reason on the form for wanting the specified guns/suppressors

Provide evidence of this reason e.g. a letter from a landowner who will allow
you to hunt on his land, membership of an approved gun club

Importantly, if you have stated 'target shooting' as your reason, and thus need to prove membership of an approved gun club, this membership can only be gained after a minimum of three months of attendance at the club i.e. unless you know someone who owns land you can hunt on and the gun you want is suitable for hunting, there's a 3 month waiting period before you can even apply.

Pay a £50 (~$80) application fee

Wait a few weeks to a few months (depending on the police force in your area and their workload at the time)

Allow a police officer into your home (or wherever you plan to store the guns) to assess security. You need a gun cabinet large enough to hold everything you have applied for.

Make any additional changes he recommends e.g. installing a burglar alarm, replacing doors/locks etc, and then allow him back to check.

Wait a few weeks to a few months more

After all that, you may get your suppressor.

As I understand it, while you pay more in the US ($200) the application for a suppressor is actually less strenuous and takes about the same time. The difference is that in the UK you need to do all of this just to own a single shot .22 rifle. Once you've gone through all of the above, adding additional guns (or a suppressor) to the list of what you're allowed to own is not so difficult. For this you:

Fill out a form

State your good reason

Wait a few weeks

But as I say, the police still need to be convinced of your good reason. Unless you're hunting, that may be impossible. It's not that it's easier, it's just that we have to go through all that stuff just to get guns. For you it's optional so most don't bother with it and go without suppressors.
 
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I've bought guns from John Forseys, if it's any help. I've been there many times.

What you forget is the supply and demand factor has to be added in. Firstly, in the U.K there really isnt much demand for rifles. Plus, as has been stated, you need a licence to own one, but also, you need somewhere to shoot it. There's a real shortage of land, particularly in the South East, where me and Mr John Foresy live :) Unless you want to join a club and shoot indoors at paper targets 25 yards away with a bolt action .22. That's just not me.

It's these reasons that put the price of some rifles in particular up, although in fairness you can buy a .22 rimfire for a couple of hundred quid, which dont seem that expensive to me.

Shotguns are much more popular here, and much more useable, partly because of the much shorter effective range, as I'm sure you know.

Also, just a point, moderators can be very popular for rifles. I know a lot of people with them to be honest. Indeed the police quite encourage you to get one for your rifle, it just has to be added to your licence, but thats a pure formality. I know mods are a bit of a no-no in your country, but to me I dont really see it as an advantage to us. I suspect that they want you to moderate your rifle so less people are aware of your presence, so they can neatly brush you under the rug, as it were :)

Christ, they even sell moderated shotguns here ....
 
KBintheSLC wrote: After 1000 years of tyranny, I am surprised you can even find a gun there. Particularly one that is to be sold to a serf
Well I own 6 rifles, 3 Shotguns, 3 Black Powder Revolvers and space to purchase more … and BTW I am a British Citizen - not a serf.

As for ‘1000 years of tyranny’ I think you should look at your own country’s’ history of human rights abuses/atrocities before you criticise other countries … ‘Those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones!’
 
glad for you ! (and I mean it ! ).. now, explain me how and why "a british citizen" can't own any semi-automatic weapon, rifle/carbine or handgun..?

Serfs weren't allowed the same weapons (to carry or own a sword, for example) as their masters... think about it..

Now, I agree with you.. you certainly aren't the kind of british citizen that should be critized about it !
 
Shung's right. While you yourself may not be a serf, there are many in your country who are. IMHO. Wait, now that i think about it there are people in my country who are surfs.

And Im not an expert but I don't think the UK has been much better than the US on civil liberties. Especially the oppression of darker skinned folk in colonies. just saying.
 
John Forsey,in Welling,Kent?He,he,he.I remember asking the propriator about pistols,back in the days,when I was a boy.It was known as Gentrys back then&pistols were a big part of this business.Forseys is a small shop,that mainly caters for shotgunners,with a good selection of semi-autos,pumps&break action shotguns.
Yes folks,guns are quite expensive over here,including replica& air weaponry.
 
Me thinks England is not the right place to live if you are a gun enthusiast.
 
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