U.N. Treaty banning firearms?????

[Norton]

>>We are on a trend back the other direction.<<

I agree with this...at least for the time being. The trouble being that if we have a gun-grabber president who is able to use his office against the Congress as a bully pulpit to forward his anti-gun agenda, the tides could once again shift against us.

We must remain vigilant against those who would disarm us.

RE: The blue helmets.....bullet resistant up to what caliber?

 

[feedthehogs]

Tory,
The original post was about a gun ban for the whole US, not individual states and so was my answer.

I've spent over 20 years at gun shows promoting the NRA and gun rights.
I ask everyone who comes by our table to recite the second amendment.
Less than 1% can. I then ask to recite any part of the bill of rights or constitution, and what is said most is an abomination of the first amendment being something about church and state and speech.

I have been an EVC for the NRA for many elections. My name and number is printed out on magazine covers before each election in two very large counties. These counties are supposed to have over 30,000 NRA members.
This election I have recieved a total of 3 calls to help the gun cause.
And this is not because the others are busy working other venues.

And these are the ones who cared enough to join the NRA.
We have over 300,000 concealed weapons permits in my county. Each one has to own on gun. Yet less than 1/4 of one percent get involved in pro gun issues.

Our local second amendment group has done mass mailings to the permit holders for help with nary a response.

So I'm not speaking out of my butt to hear myself talk.

Yes the general gun owner is ignorant and stupid. I have presented facts to back up my claim.

But I have been working for many decades to change that. It is very slow going.

 

[pittspilot]

Constitutional Law trumps treaties. There is abundant precedent on this point.

A treaty that was ratified would be quickly challenged, and that would be an issue that the Supreme Court could no longer ignore.

I also don't think that Bush or the Senate would go for it.

 

[IndianaDean]

I'm a member of the NRA, but at times they haven't supported our cause any better than anti gun groups. They have given in to pressure and sold us out in the past also. Gun Owners of America is the only group that's supported our rights unequivocably.

For that matter, the Libertarian and possibly the Constitutional parties are the only two political parties that support our gun rights unquestionably.

 

[Waitone]

Most gun owners couldn't repeat the second amendment let alone any of the bill of rights and constitution.
Anyone who knows about this situation knows it will never happen without another revolution taking place.

And each and every American can humm "freedom of the press," yet congress passed a blatantly unconstitutional law. A spineless president signed a blatantly unconstitutional law saying, "Its probably unconstitutional" before he signed it. He and congress punted the whole issue to the supreme court just knowing SCOTUS would strike it down. SCOTUS shockingly found a "compelling governmental interest" in controlling money in the political process. Campaign Finance Control is now a law which has unleashed more untraceable money in this election than ever before.

CFR was a complete system failure. Yea, a UN gun ban being enforced in the US is not out of the question. It all depends upon on elected officials standing on principal and a judiciary limiting itself to stated law of the US.

 

[stevelyn]

RavenVT100 sez:

Might we, as legal owners not be targeted by this?

Do you really want to take the chance at giving them the benefit of the doubt? That somehow they may be benevolent enough to leave us alone?

 

[YankeeRebel]

I wonder if a constitional amendment allowing that no treaty may override the constitution or laws of the U.S. would cure the whole thing. I am not going to hold my breath for it, but I would love to see it.

 

[geekWithA.45]

No need for an amendment to "clarify" the fact that no treaty may over ride the Constitution/B of R. The words "pursuant to", meaning "in conformance with" already covers that case.