Uber secure gun safe installation?....

[El Mariachi]

If I play my cards right soon, I'll finally be giving Kali the heave-ho and moving out of here, far, far away. Out in the country. With a bunch of dirt and trees around. And water. For hundreds of yards. Can't frickin wait, and my blood pressure can't either-----but now there's the issue of securing a 400 lb. safe somewhere on the property. It'll be either put in a cement slabbed work shop...or in the one story home. It's a very tough safe but my fear is that someone would/could just drive off with the entire thing....like an ATM machine, if we're gone for an extended period of time. Idears? Any Fort Knoxy/Blackwater/military style type tips would be greatly appreciated.....

Gracias in advance

 

[M-Cameron]

bolt to floor in workshop near a wall.......pour concrete enclosure around safe.......build false wall to meet flush with front of safe......cover entire wall with pegboard.....

safe will be darn near invisible....and if it is found.....its not going anywhere.....

itll take a bit of work.....but nothing that you couldnt handle in a few weekends.

 

[X-Rap]

I would anchor to the floor and into two walls of a corner at the minimum.

 

[gbran]

My 2 safes are both in my garage. They are concealed so that they aren't seen when the doors are open. They are lagged to the concrete floor and the studs in the wall. They would be very difficult to remove like an ATM, but they are unfortuneatley in the garage. Guess what else is in the garage?

All my tools, saws, grinders, torches, etc.

 

[Shadow 7D]

Um, out of sight, out of mind
behind a secure door (as in lockable)
In a tight space

Securely bolted

Ask one of the locksmiths to post a pick of one of their Vault installations, I'm sure a gun safe in one of them would be pretty secure.

 

[oneounceload]

If you are gone for a long period of time, they'll just break it open - why bother with the weight if they don't have to? For many RSCs, a sledge on a corner will crack the safe open like a walnut

If you will be having humidity issues, place it inside the home - bolted to floor and two walls. Building around it will hamper its removal no matter where you put it.

One friend built walls and cabinets in his garage (climate controlled), then put his RSC in one. The outside f the door was locked and had a warning sign indicating high voltage and electrocution danger - neat idea

 

[Owen Sparks]

The safest safe is the one nobody knows about. Hide it behind a false wall in the back of a closet or in a recess in the wall behind the refrigerator. Don't depend on the brute strength of the safe alone, HIDE IT where service people and visitors will not have a story to tell about "the guy with a safe full of guns." I know one individual who owns a plumbing business who has all his guns hidden inside a false water heater in the basement. (the real one is in the attic) It looks absolutly believable with pipes and all. No thief is going to take the time to dismantle your water heater.

 

[rbernie]

My last house had a large walk in closet on the second floor that backed up against the plumbing for the main bathroom, had a brick wall to the left and the interior dead space for the downstairs ducting to the right. I bolted a safe (which pretty well filled the closet) to the studs and the floor, and felt pretty comfortable that there was no way to yank it out or to do a pry attack on the sides or top due to lack of room.

 

[Pate]

I installed a safe in the middle of a customers garage floor. They spent half the year in Florida and would park the car over it when then the left and you would never know it was there. Even if you did, you would still need to get the car off it to attempt to break in.

Installation in a closet floor under the stairs was another common location. Put some carpet over the cover and nobody would ever know it's there.

 

[El Mariachi]

Thank you, Gents---lotta good advice here. Think I better figure out the whole dehumidifier thing first, then select the location. I remodel houses and crap for a living so I'll take a few ideas here and tailor them to the task at hand. I'll aim for a bullet proof set-up....metaphorically speaking......

 

[jon_in_wv]

A friend of mine bought a house that had a reinforced concrete block room with a bank vault door in it in his basement. I would think that would be one heck a a secure set up.

 

[Jim K]

As to what not to do, I know a guy who bought one of those safe doors and installed it on a closet. Not as a deterrent, but as a real effort at security. When he raved about how hard it would be to work on the combination lock, I asked him why a burglar wouldn't just kick in the dry wall on either side of the door. He doesn't speak to me much any more.

Jim