yotesmoker
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Trying to find out about a uberti 1886 oct bbl rifle in 45 colt but can't find anything thru the search function.I have a chance for one at 600.Any opinions on this rifle?
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CraigC
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If it's a Uberti and a .45Colt, it ain't an `86. It would have to be an 1860, 1866, 1873 or 1892. Need to know which it is before we can proceed as the `60, `66 and `73 tend to be priced higher than `92's. The 1886 is a large action chambered in rifle cartridges, never pistol.
Noban
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Perhaps you're thinking of a Browning or Winchester 1886 made by the Miroku factory in Japan. These were a limited run about a decade ago. They're still available on the usual gun auction sites, going for $1,000 and up depending upon condition and style. I have a few myself.
Jim Watson
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Craig is right.
It still ain't a .45 Colt on an 1886 action.
It still ain't a .45 Colt on an 1886 action.
An Uberti lever rifle of any model and in very good to excellent condition is worth $600
Average market value is around $750 used.
Best to have the rifle checked by a gunsmith familar with these guns as many people cannot resist the urge to fire high power ammunition, i.e. Cor-Bon and the like, in these guns and they end up messing up the locking toggles and/or battering the toggle stops on the frames, especially in the brass,(actually bronze), framed guns.
If the action feels loose when you cycle the gun and/or the lever wiggles a fair amount in side to side play, have the gun looked at before you buy.
Uberti will not warranty repair the guns if they determine heavy loads have been fired in it.
They will repair the gun, but the fees can be simply stunning.HTH
Average market value is around $750 used.
Best to have the rifle checked by a gunsmith familar with these guns as many people cannot resist the urge to fire high power ammunition, i.e. Cor-Bon and the like, in these guns and they end up messing up the locking toggles and/or battering the toggle stops on the frames, especially in the brass,(actually bronze), framed guns.
If the action feels loose when you cycle the gun and/or the lever wiggles a fair amount in side to side play, have the gun looked at before you buy.
Uberti will not warranty repair the guns if they determine heavy loads have been fired in it.
They will repair the gun, but the fees can be simply stunning.HTH
CraigC
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Like I said, it depends on what it is. Some variants like the `66 carbines go for as little as $775 brand new, in which case $600 wouldn't be such a good deal, depending upon condition. An 1873 Deluxe Sporting Rifle would be a different story.
yotesmoker
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got it on loan for a few days.It is a cimarron/uberti 1866 golden....24" oct bbl...BUT it will not work property.I put a half dozen rounds thru theloading gate but they won't feed when working the lever.The rounds will not rise up to be put in contact with the bolt.And looking down in it I can see no way that a round can rise to the bolt,The sides of the receiver on the inside are to narrow to allow a round to rise up to the bolt.I had to remove the tube plug to unload it.Goes back today.I'll stick with marlins.
got it on loan for a few days.It is a cimarron/uberti 1866 golden....24" oct bbl...BUT it will not work property.I put a half dozen rounds thru theloading gate but they won't feed when working the lever.The rounds will not rise up to be put in contact with the bolt.And looking down in it I can see no way that a round can rise to the bolt,The sides of the receiver on the inside are to narrow to allow a round to rise up to the bolt.I had to remove the tube plug to unload it.Goes back today.I'll stick with marlins.
The toggles control the cartridge lifter,(elevator), and what you describe is a good indicator that somebody was shooting stuff in the gun they shouldn't have been.
Probably found out how expensive it is to repair one and is trying to dump it off on an unsuspecting soul.
Too bad,.
Probably found out how expensive it is to repair one and is trying to dump it off on an unsuspecting soul.
Too bad,.
SASS#23149
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not quite awake yet,but seems to me if overpowered rounds were fired in it,the receiver sides would be bowed out,not in.Unless someone tried to 'fix' it with a press of some sort.
are you SURE it's the right caliber ammo? it should have the caliber stamped on the barrel,most do.
are you SURE it's the right caliber ammo? it should have the caliber stamped on the barrel,most do.
CraigC
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Could it be a .44-40???
Red Cent
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You are describing a cartridge that is too long or too short. The round feeds from the tube into the middle (not on top) of the elevator and is cradled there until the bolt pushes the round into the chamber.
With two bullets fed to the rifle in the normal manner, drop the lever and stop. This allows the first cartridge to be pushed inside the elevator. If the round is too long, some of the nose of the bullet protrudes inside the tube. If the bullet is too short, the rim and maybe some more of the second cartridge can be seen blocking the rise if the elevator. Everything else is passive and has nothing to do with the round.
Please post your findings after you have observed these actions.
With two bullets fed to the rifle in the normal manner, drop the lever and stop. This allows the first cartridge to be pushed inside the elevator. If the round is too long, some of the nose of the bullet protrudes inside the tube. If the bullet is too short, the rim and maybe some more of the second cartridge can be seen blocking the rise if the elevator. Everything else is passive and has nothing to do with the round.
Please post your findings after you have observed these actions.
yotesmoker
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I really hate to post the answer to my problem.I've been a gun handler for over 50 years and this is the stupidest thing I've ever had happen to me.The gun is perfect.When working the lever I did not open it completely enough to allow the cartridge to rise so as to enter the bore.I have a few marlins and other clones so I should have known better.My dealer/friend won't let me forget this for some time.
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