Uberti SAA 'Swing out Cylinder'

[Oyeboten]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EzAUdCXdq4



Kind of fascinating!


Why bother retaining a Loading Gate and right hand Ejecting Rod though?


COLT could have done this in the late 1880s, when they introduced their first Swing out Cylinder on the 'New Army' was it?

 

[Schofield3]

loves them single actions!

 

[Oyeboten]

I do too!


This would solve the conundrum for those who have wished to use Speed Loaders with them...too...

 

[rcmodel]

Wow!
Sort of old High-Standard Double-Nineish!!

Wonder why they didn't make it Double Action too.

Shees!

rc

 

[Oyeboten]

Lol...

If they would make them Double Action, one could 'Bob' the Hammer and not feel embarassed about it.

 

[rcmodel]

I'm thinking they could just go all the way and make them look like a Colt New Service!

rc

 

[Oyeboten]

But then the Cowboy Action crowd might frown...


I know!!


A 'New Service' which is Single Action only, and, with a right side Loading Gate, Plunger extractor, and no Swing out Cylinder.

Now THAT would be 'progress'...

 

[Jim Watson]

Fascinating.
Back in the 1920s there was an exhibition shooter who favored SAA handling but did not want to take the time reloading a gateloader while putting on a show. So he bought a S&W M&P barrel, cylinder, and yoke, and a SAA hammer and grip frame. He sent them off to a leading gunsmith of the era and had them built into a swing-out single action. Not a bad looking piece, without the superfluous gate and ejector rod housing of the Uberti. Stolen in transit and never seen again.

H. Bowen has made a reproduction of the Sedgley lift-out cylinder SAA, but that is way behind the swing-out design.

I bet the short action will catch on, too. That was a well known modification to the SAA for target shooting.

 

[DWFan]

The cylinder is an answer to a question that nobody is asking. Now the short action is a definite improvement. My grandfather owned a King's modified Colt and I remember the short hammer fall. As far as the extended hammer spur; that's an invitation to fanning...and quick destruction of the revolver.

 

[CraigC]

Blasphemy!!!

 

[Kentucky-roughrider]

I wanted that design for a self defence gun for horseback riding, a single action revolver is the safest gun for riding, with a round under the firing pin but reloading is so slow. That is what I had in mind only in my mind it was built on the Ruger Vaquero (large frame one) but that is a start. But that is a starting point.

 

[CraigC]

Spend enough time with a single action and there is no disadvantage. IMHO, without speedloaders it's faster to reload a single action than a double action so the quick ejection of the swingout cylinder is moot.

 

[Kentucky-roughrider]

maybe/maybe not but it is a good excuse to buy another revolver and I have been thinking about getting another large frame revolver in either 45 Colt or 45 ACP. This is another option to me.

 

[oldfool]

Wow!
Sort of old High-Standard Double-Nineish!!

Wonder why they didn't make it Double Action too.

Shees!

rc

careful, there rc
you might be "dating" yourself
not that many of us around that shoot them D-9s anymore

PS
I wouldn't call the DA trigger good enough on mine to bother shooting shooting DA, but it works
sure makes them Ruger Single-Six guys look envious whilst reloading though
(and easily holds it own in SA mode)

 

[Deanimator]

There were a few late 19th century revolvers which used a similar system. One or two of them are in the first edition of the A.B. Zhuk book of line drawings of handguns.

 

[Oyeboten]

Might even be a Colt made prototype in existence...


Given the Colt Swing-Out Cylinder was introduced in the latter 1880s on their mid size Frame .38, I am sure some thought was given to converting their SAA Model design to have that option, if probably sans it's usual Loading gate and SAA type Ejector.

 

[oldgoat46]

You want fast reloading in a single action and still be period correct get a Schofield.

 

[sonier]

I deffffinately want one of those now

 

[Weevil]

Interesting!

 

[BCRider]

Spend enough time with a single action and there is no disadvantage. IMHO, without speedloaders it's faster to reload a single action than a double action so the quick ejection of the swingout cylinder is moot.

While I'm really enjoying my SAA style Piettas I'm afraid that they will never be as quick to reload as my swing out cylinder DA S&W's. But in addition to the all at once evection of the brass I've also masted picking up my rounds two at a time and loading them. So one action to clear the cylinder and only 3 actions to reload vs 12 actions to eject and reload an SAA with all six. Nope, I'm afraid that it's not ever going to be as fast.

 

[bannockburn]

Very neat and practical too. I would buy one if they were available.

 

[ethiopian-gunna]

has anyone ever thought about a SAA with the loading gate on the left side of the gun?
would it be an advantage for right handed shooters?

 

[ArchAngelCD]

At least this resurrected thread is only 6 months old...

 

[Oyeboten]

My how Time flies!

 

[cane]

has anyone ever thought about a SAA with the loading gate on the left side of the gun?
would it be an advantage for right handed shooters

Yup, Bill Grover's SA Improved No. 5", made by Texas Longhorn Arms in the 90s. The business is closed and Grover died, but you can still find them on the various gun auction sites. They usually run $2500 and up.