TheDutchman
Member
Ronnie Earl is the DA and hates Guns and Republicans.
uh, oh - Detroit CCW holder shoots boss
- Thread starter K-Romulus
- Start date
- Status
Dionysusigma
Member
Sounds like the NYC of Texas. 
Hypnogator- the problem with permitted CCW is there is always some tyrant wannabee that thinks they are uniquely qualified to determine who should and who should not be armed. That is, who has rights under the 2A and who does not.
Only Vermont style carry is consistent with the rights of man.
Only Vermont style carry is consistent with the rights of man.
I'm also the scum of the earth, a car salesman. I've been in a few 'arguments' with other salesmen that turned violent. One ended with me bleeding on the lot. Another ended with the other guy unconscious, a free ride in a police car and a bill for a new table, two chairs, a 12 foot window and damage to the boss's car. We were both fired for that last one.
I can understand how this would happen. Its referred to in the business as 'skating'. Its when one salesman 'steals' another salesman's customer. Think of it as stealing $300-$1000 depending on the deal. Discussions over whose customer just bought can get VERY heated in a big hurry and come to blows more than I'd like to admit.
I don't think there was any reason to use a firearm. As you can tell from above, things can get nasty in a hurry. However there are many less lethal weapons around that will neutralize the situation witout someone firing a gun in the showroom. Personally, I like to swing chairs.
I can understand how this would happen. Its referred to in the business as 'skating'. Its when one salesman 'steals' another salesman's customer. Think of it as stealing $300-$1000 depending on the deal. Discussions over whose customer just bought can get VERY heated in a big hurry and come to blows more than I'd like to admit.
I don't think there was any reason to use a firearm. As you can tell from above, things can get nasty in a hurry. However there are many less lethal weapons around that will neutralize the situation witout someone firing a gun in the showroom. Personally, I like to swing chairs.
Zundfolge
Member
A lot?
I doubt there are "a lot" of people with CCWs that have no business having a gun ... I'd be willing to bet that across the entire country there are a handfull of people with CCWs that have no business having a gun (and I'll even further bet that those are in May Issue states where a Sheriff has given one of his worthless cronies a permit).
duckslayer
Member
- Joined
- Jan 29, 2004
- Messages
- 497
thumbody
Member
xdoctor , You using a chair would make me feel in danger of death or great bodily harm and would justify lethal force!
Do you not feel a chair can be a lethal weapon?If you are using it to fend off an attack that is one thing but if you are using it as a offensive weapon you are no less guilty than someone attacking with a knife or firearm.
Do you not feel a chair can be a lethal weapon?If you are using it to fend off an attack that is one thing but if you are using it as a offensive weapon you are no less guilty than someone attacking with a knife or firearm.
Spreadfire Arms
Member
- Joined
- Feb 23, 2005
- Messages
- 1,312
although i do not have any direct experience or knowledge with this, i have heard the Travis Co. District Attorney's office vigorously prosecutes gun related charges.
that being said, if this incident were to happen in this jurisdiction, i am not certain which way it would play out.
i would say that someone choking someone else is a use of deadly force and if that were the case, then the use of a firearm would be justifiable.
however, it appears that this was an ongoing feud between the two. also, if they were arguing about which car salesman gets the next "up," [car salesman jargon for walk-in customer] then the argument really should not have escalated to physical force.
however, having worked on a car lot, i have seen unscrupulous salesmen scoop the next "up" from the next guy in line. kind of like a taxi driver cutting in front of every other driver in line at a taxi queue to scoop up the next customer. i wouldn't exactly resort to violence, but i don't think it is improper for the salesman who was wronged to at least verbally express his discontent to the vulture salesman.
that being said, if this incident were to happen in this jurisdiction, i am not certain which way it would play out.
i would say that someone choking someone else is a use of deadly force and if that were the case, then the use of a firearm would be justifiable.
however, it appears that this was an ongoing feud between the two. also, if they were arguing about which car salesman gets the next "up," [car salesman jargon for walk-in customer] then the argument really should not have escalated to physical force.
however, having worked on a car lot, i have seen unscrupulous salesmen scoop the next "up" from the next guy in line. kind of like a taxi driver cutting in front of every other driver in line at a taxi queue to scoop up the next customer. i wouldn't exactly resort to violence, but i don't think it is improper for the salesman who was wronged to at least verbally express his discontent to the vulture salesman.
- Status