UK: Month-long amnesty to cut gun crime

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London: Government announces guns amnesty to battle rising firearms crime

Government announces guns amnesty to battle rising firearms crime
Sun Mar 2,12:55 PM ET
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030302/ap_wo_en_po/eu_gen_britain_gun_crime_1

By JANE WARDELL, Associated Press Writer

LONDON - The government announced a one-month guns amnesty Sunday, allowing people who own illegal weapons to hand them over to police without prosecution, as part of a battle against rising firearms crime.


"The safety of the public and police officers is our first priority. Taking guns off our streets will save lives and cut crime. Every weapon that is given up is a weapon that cannot be used in crime and violence," said Home Office Minister Bob Ainsworth.


The government said it was calling for people to give up air guns and imitation weapons as well as prohibited firearms and ammunition during the amnesty from March 31 to April 30.


Gun crime is still relatively rare in Britain where handguns were banned in 1997 after the massacre of 16 children and a teacher at a primary school in Dunblane, Scotland. Previous amnesties in 1996 and 1998 yielded thousands of weapons.


There were 73 gun homicides in England and Wales in the 2000-2001 fiscal year, which runs from April to April. The United States, with about five times the population, had 8,719 firearm murders in 2001, according to the FBI.


But statistics published in January showed firearms were used in 9,974 crimes in the 12 months ending in April in England and Wales, compared with 7,362 the previous year, an increase of 35 percent and the fourth straight year to show an increase.


Fears of a rising gun culture appeared to be founded when, just days later, two teenage girls were shot to death in the central English city of Birmingham when caught in the middle of a turf war between gangs.


Ainsworth said that the government and police had detected a "disturbing" increase in the number of young people casually carrying firearms.


"We need to act now to show that this is unacceptable and to stop the development of a gun culture, where firearms are treated as fashion accessories," he said.


"The police are encouraging the hand-in of any type of firearms, including imitations, that are held for criminal or anti-social purposes."


The amnesty comes ahead of the introduction of a minimum five-year jail sentence for carrying an illegal firearm. There is currently no minimum sentence for carrying an illegal weapon.


The government has also said it will outlaw the carrying of air guns and mock firearms in public as part of efforts to stem rising gun crime. Penalties for breaching those laws have not yet been decided.


Oliver Letwin, the opposition Conservative Party's spokesman for home affairs, said he welcomed an amnesty to get guns off the street but said that should not allow people who have committed crimes with the surrendered guns to escape prosecution.


(jw)
 
I guess sending them letters, scolding the criminals, and insisting that they mend their ways in the new year didn't work. :banghead:
 
So -- the criminals are all meekly gonna hand in their pieces .... Sheesh ... get real!!! This is not the way to tackle the problem, other than as a ploy to catch votes, cos ''it sounds good''. What a joke. :rolleyes:
"The police are encouraging the hand-in of any type of firearms, including imitations, that are held for criminal or anti-social purposes."
Doesn't mention those that just might be kept for self-defence .. eh??!! Doesn't feature does it ....... no one is supposed to have any means of defence there any more ..... let alone (horror, gasp, recoil) a GUN!! OMG .. that'd be so, well ..... so very ''non PC'' :rolleyes: :fire:
 
Not only do the Brits still not get it, they're not even paying attention! :banghead:
 
Yep, this'll solve the problem.




http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/...ml&sSheet=/portal/2003/03/02/ixportaltop.html

Month-long amnesty to cut gun crime
(Filed: 03/03/2003)


A month-long nationwide guns amnesty has been launched by the Government in a bid to cut soaring firearms crime and beat Britain's burgeoning gang culture.

The amnesty will last from Mar 31 to April 30 during which people holding illicit firearms and ammunition can hand them over to police without facing prosecution.

The move comes ahead of the introduction of tough new sentences for illegal possession of prohibited firearms, which will see a minimum five-year sentence for those convicted.

The amnesty was agreed by police and Government at a round table meeting with community representatives in January, chaired by David Blunkett, the Home Secretary.

The meeting came shortly after Charlene Ellis, 18, and Latisha Shakespeare, 17, were shot dead outside a New Year party in Birmingham.

Police believe they were innocent victims of a turf war between rival gangs and their deaths have been seen as symtomatic of a new readiness by gangsters to use firearms.

The last national firearms amnesty in 1996, following the massacre of schoolchildren at Dunblane, saw 23,000 firearms and 700,000 rounds of ammunition surrendered.

An amnesty in 1988, after the Hungerford shootings, saw 48,000 firearms and 1.7 million rounds of ammunition handed in.

As well as prohibited, unlicensed and unwanted firearms, the police are now encouraging people to hand in air weapons and imitation guns. The Government is to bring in new restrictions on carrying imitations or air weapons in a public place.

Launching the initiative, Bob Ainsworth, the Home Office minister, said: "This amnesty provides an opportunity for people to get rid of an illegal weapon.

"The safety of the public and police officers is our first priority. Taking guns off our streets will save lives and cut crime. Every weapon that is given up is a weapon that cannot be used in crime and violence.

"While armed crime in the UK is low compared with other countries, there has been an unacceptable increase in the number of guns being used in crime and the Government is taking urgent action to tackle this.

"Perhaps the most disturbing element of changing gun use is the casual carrying of firearms, predominantly by young people. We need to act now to show that this is unacceptable and to stop the development of a 'gun culture,' where firearms are treated as fashion accessories."

Deputy Chief Constable David McCrone of Greater Manchester Police, chair of the Association of Chief Police Officers' criminal use of firearms group, said all police forces supported the amnesty.

He said: "It will serve to reduce the availability of firearms of all descriptions, which in turn will result in lives being saved, prevent injuries and spare members of the public the trauma of being threatened with a firearm.

Oliver Letwin, the shadow home secretary, said: "We welcome any amnesty to get illegal guns off the streets, but that should not mean that people who have committed crimes with those guns should escape prosecution."

The amnesty will run throughout England, Scotland and Wales.
 
What ever happened to that agricola guy?


The shock of his left-wing anti-gun hero, Tony Blair, deciding to throw in with the USA was probably too much for his system.

Thank God for socialized medicine!
 
I'm sure that thousands of criminals will be lining up to get rid of their guns. Bad, nasty, evil things that they are. These career criminals will magically lose all interest in drugs, burglary, car theft and violent behavior and suddenly become productive members of society once the mind control that the gun has over them is removed. </over-the-top sarcasm OFF>

Of course the truth is that a handful of weapons will be turned in by law-abiding citizens who either forgot they had them or kept them and have been living in abject fear of a SWAT style raid to collect their demonic .38 special that’s been in the sock drawer since just after World War II.

The government will crow about the number of guns removed from the streets. Whatever number they give it will be grossly exaggerated, counting non-functional and replicas, Airsoft's and squirt guns.

A month after this farce is over the crime rate will continue to rise and all involved will collectively shake their heads in bafflement, wondering why it's happening.

Is there a “reset†button on this planet? Someone REALLY needs to find it and push it.
 
Rarely does a day pass when I fail to feel grateful to our forefathers for having rebelled against the English and founded a republic.

Why did we bother to defend England against Germany? Clearly, the English would have been much happier as a Nazi subject state.
 
Agricola

Agricola woun't argue for gun control on his home board much.

He might throw in a comment now and then, but it doesn't look like his heart is in it.

You guys must have converted him.


And if he's lurking that should draw him out.


:D
 
Most of what they will get will be airguns, toy guns, rusty old shotguns that fall to bits when they are handed over, and some war souvenirs which continue to surface as the wartime generation dies off. The Beretta M1934 automatics were very popular souvenirs, they always get lots of those turned in.
 
Dang, Airwolf....

that bit about the 'reset' button nearly got me from Pepsi inhalation:D

It's at least as crazy here in Australia, but you honestly would think someone, somewhere in government would be asking:
"Why isn't this reducing 'gun' crime?"

The cynical answer, I suppose, is that it is accomplishing the goal of those who want to disarm us for their own ideological needs.:scrutiny:
 
If declaring Ag a convert doesn't bring him out, nothing will!
I do kinda miss his even-tempered discourse in the interest of a corrupt philosophy--that controlling law-abiding citizens' possessions will affect criminal behavior. :rolleyes:

TC
TFL Survivor
 
It's at least as crazy here in Australia, but you honestly would think someone, somewhere in government would be asking: "Why isn't this reducing 'gun' crime?"

Wasn't it John Howard himself who, when asked this question, said something like, "It was never about reducing crime"?
 
P95 is correct. It is about control, but sadly the ones who will be in control are the armed, be it gov. or bg. The average citizen will be at the mercy of both. Also, when WWII began, that is why the Brits. were at Germany's mercy until WE sent the arms!!
 
Leatherneck

In a ten plus page gun thread, he only had one or two comments.

But i don't argue numbers with him either.
 
DJJ....here are a couple of quotes....

Straight from the horse's...err...mouth:

"I don’t pretend that it is simply a matter of imposing a stricter regime regarding the possession of automatic or semi-automatic weapons. But that is an element of turning around the culture in the country and that is the reason why the Government has taken the decision that it has taken."
PM John Howard Sale Rally 16/6/96

"Now I don’t pretend for a moment ladies and gentlemen that the decision that we have taken is going to guarantee that in the future there won’t be other mass murders. I don’t pretend that for a moment."
PM John Howard Sale Rally 16/6/96

The honourable P.M. doesn't pretend to know anything about the subject...he just goes ahead and bans it!:banghead:
 
"Every weapon that is given up is a weapon that cannot be used in crime and violence," said Home Office Minister Bob Ainsworth.


I think he should have said: Every weapon that is given up is a weapon that cannot be used stop crime or violence.
 
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