Under the pillow caliber war!

[kid_couteau]

Oh it isnt mine

I just want one

I found it on Serbu shorty site

Later
Kid

 

[Todesengel]

If i couldn't have my 12G or my 1911 .45 .....my next choice woud be my S&W 686 .357 loaded with remington Golden Sabers.

 

[joab]

Being temporarily blinded and deaf is better than being dead.

Being temporarily blinded and deaf can lead to deadness.

The .357's blinding flash and deafening roar will be amplified in a dark confined place eliminating the possibility of an aimed folow up shot.

.45s don't seem to have a great a flash and as sharp aa report

That is a lovely weapon, but it looks too short to be legal.

That gun is perfectly legal and sold commercially as the Super Shorty. All you have to do is pay the proper tribute to the government

 

[Brian Williams]

That shorty is legal, just needs a tax stamp and the hassles of dealing with the ATF. As a matter of fact it is only a $5 tax stamp to own a Short Barreled Shotgun because it is declared an AnyOtherWeapon (AOW).


I have fired a number of 223 and a couple of 357 and a 9mm all indoors with out hearing protection. Young and Dumb in the Corps. I might have a little hearing loss but not a lot.

 

[Ala Dan]

Under The Pillow Caliber War

Well, I could not vote cuz my "under the pillow" gun isn't a revolver.
Rather, its the world famous West German .45 ACP SIG-SAUER P220A
stoked with 200 grain Hornady T.A.P. JHP's~!

 

[AdamXBT]

My Kahr...Jeje

 

[Green Lantern]

I'll echo grimjaw and point out that even a .22 short is nothing to sneer at in the "noise" department when coming from a tiny pocket auto. Remember my aunt's Astra Cub? When I went up to her house to clean it up and fire it (thanks to a generous THR member for a magazine for it!), I brought everything I needed...EXCEPT my earplugs.

It wasn't a horrible experience, one mag of .22 shorts, outdoors...but my ears STILL rang for a little bit....

FYI, I voted for 38+P, but my nightstand gun is my G19 and Gold Dots. Don't fancy sticking it under the pillow, though! In fact, I'm a pretty rough sleeper, I don't think I'd stick ANY gun under a pillow, for fear of it ending up God-knows-where as I toss and turn through the night!

 

[jad0110]

Use enough gun...


























Think muzzle flash and blast would be a problem indoors???


For the record, I voted 38 +P (specifically Remington LSWCHPs) in my 686+ for nightstand duty. Shoots to POA, simple, reliable, and the FBI load has an impressive track record. To echo others, the 686 gets loaded with Federal C357B 125 grn semi jacketted HPs when CCWing away from home.

 

[Chuck R.]

My nightstand gun is a SIG 220ST with a M3X weapon light, loaded with 230 grn REM Golden Sabers.

When I travel for business which is pretty frequent, I switch to my wife's gun which is a Python loaded with REM 125 grn .38 +P Golden Sabers. She handles the recoil of the .38 +P much better than the .45ACP, and try as I might, I can't get here to like any of my autos.

Chuck

 

[Huddog]

Chose .357 of those listed but my hd at night is a G17 with attached light. and spare mag. Wife gets the 642.

 

[The Real Hawkeye]

Out of a four inch barrel, .38 Special +p lead SWC HP is a proven stopper, equal to the .45 ACP using military hardball. In additional, follow up shots are easier, and it won't blind you as badly in the dark. And I just plain like my lightweight barreled Model 10. Just finished a practical style shooting match with it, and did pretty well. That's a gun you can really get good at placing your shots were you want them fast.

 

[Confederate]

My .38 Rossi with .38+P is good enough for me. Why turn over my nice gun to the cops after having to shoot a bad guy? BTW, if you ever do have to shoot anyone with your .44 magnum, take the body to Fort Marcy Park and dump it there. Put a .22LR RG in its hand and they'll call it a suicide. Those Park Police will think he shot himself twice in the same place. Two times .22 equals .44!

Open and shut case.

 

[10-Ring]

My night stand routinely has my S&W mod 19 w/ factory magnum loads in it...I do rotate my guns for HD duty so I also have a 45 acp & 9mm to split the duty.

 

[Shrinkmd]

Interesting

So far, in this poll 1/3 of the respondents chose a 38+P, which is arguably the same or less effective than available 9mm+P loadings. I wonder if people have different thoughts about their ccw vs hd pistol. It seems like the caliber wars usually disparage the .38+p/9mm+p options in favor of .357 or .45

Another interesting thing is the number of .45acp, almost 1/5. I guess if you're a big .45 fan and willing to give up the reloads of a semi, you can gain the peace of mind of not needing to lube, check on, play with, or otherwise maintain your hd piece. Especially if you tend to bring other things to the range to play with.

I'm also curious to hear more about the .44 special option, and how that compares to a .45acp in similar loadings.

Thanks for all the replies!

 

[mountainclmbr]

I keep a 44 mag in a nightstand clock-radio safe with a lighted keypad for opening. In my present house, a bear is the only thing that has tried to break in.

 

[alucard0822]

M1 garand w bayonet and gen II night vision, and it even fits under 2 pillows

 

[MNgoldenbear]

I went with .38, but don't really like the idea of the gun literally under the pillow. I think it's a much better plan to set up some other security (alarms, dogs, etc.) that would keep me from being in a situation in which I'd need to grab a gun from under my pillow. Come to think of it, don't think I'd get much sleep in such conditions anyway.

Nice moose sheets, alucard0822 -- my wife would really like those (her central decorating theme is moose). Where'd you get 'em? Though personally, I'd go with my '96 Mauser -- not as attached to it as to my Garand (wouldn't hurt me as much to use it as a club or give it up "temporarily" as evidence).

 

[Ichiro]

All four of our 38 and 357 revolvers are loaded with 158gr LSWCHP, for home defense or carry.

As for my ability to control follow-up shots, there's absolutely no comparison between the FBI load and any magnum round. The 38 wins, hands down.

I also like our wondernine, but greatly prefer double-action revolvers for defensive roles.

 

[Ichiro]

Oh, and three of our revolvers are kept next to the bed, with none under the pillow.

And although we keep speedloaders handy, I expect a reload would be grabbing another gun.

 

[mashaffer]

.45LC

SA revolver in .45 Long Colt loaded to about 900 FPS with lead SWC of about 250 grains. Good compromise with very effective round and reasonable muzzle blast. The SA would be kept hammer down on empty chamber so that I don't shoot myself in the head.

Since .45LC is not one of the options I would choose .44mag down loaded to similar levels. That said I will probably end up with a Blackhawk or Uberti in .357 before I get my hands on a .45. And if I had to do it tonight my .22LR Sportsman would have to suffice.

Of course even a .38-40 would do nicely.

mike

 

[Old Grump]

voted 38+ but my normal bedside gun is a 357 loaded with standard loads of 38 special in lead 158 grainers, sufficient at bed to bedroom door range and anywhere in the house. Dead on accurate at any range up to 75' . right now that gun is down for a little work on my workbench and my 44 mag loaded with 44 spcl is filling in, shoots to the same point of aim as the 38's do with similar recoil in the bigger gun.

 

[Piedmont Plinker]

This thread is a year and a half old.

 

[twoclones]

Not a 22 and keep a spare.

A girlfriend of mine fired 7 shots from a 22 rifle at an intruder who entered her bedroom. The cops found 2 holes in the wall, suggesting 5 hits, and a blood trail leaving her apartment. No hospital or doctor reported treating these gunshot wounds and no body was found...

After the customary interview at the cop house and weapon confiscation, she was sent home with NO WEAPON.

My bedside weapon is a 40.


Butch

 

[Realbigo]

I'm w/ the 1911 crowd on this one, but out of whats up there, I choose .357 Loaded w/ .38spl Glasers. or magsafes. Overpenetration would be a problem in my neighborhood

 

[smee781]

I went with 45acp, big and slow....Plus there was no 44spl listing.