XxWINxX94
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My grandfather bought a Judge (from a gun shop), not 6 months ago and did not get any pamphlet relating to the safety from the state when he recieved the gun. Never heard of a state-supplied safety manuals in IL.
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Unsafe Guy at the Range Today
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My grandfather bought a Judge (from a gun shop), not 6 months ago and did not get any pamphlet relating to the safety from the state when he recieved the gun. Never heard of a state-supplied safety manuals in IL.
hey_poolboy
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News to me. I've bought several handguns here in IL. and never received a pamphlet of any kind.
Deltaboy1984
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Scare me at the Range doing stupid stuff then I will go DI on them. :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
Gouranga
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Everyone of my firearms I have bought came with a booklet that had the 4 rules of safety.
The OP's follow up description of the guy make shim sound like someone who has completely lost respect for firearms. I always tell my kids, guns are not to be feared, but you should never lose your respect of what they can do.
Now at my range, to be honest, I would have less tolerance mainly because before you can get into the range you have to watch a 10 minute safety video. The rules are posted behind the desk, on each door, and on the walls in the range area. There is literally no way to get into a stall without seeing them.
Reading back on the OP's full situation, I probably would not have been too far from him on the response. Dropping the gun, would make me nervous but I would be more concerned for his health. Pulling the trigger like he did, for someone who has spent anytime in a range, that is inexcusable.
OneBigDude
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I was at the range tonight and one of the guys working behind the counter was late 20's. He was sitting behind one of the display cases with the owner of the shop and pulled a 1911 out of the display and put the barrel in his mouth!!! You know what the shop owner did? Laughed hysterically. Later these guys were downstairs at the range and continuously muzzle swept the guy in the lane next to him. Last time I will be at this range.
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I didn't have anyone to teach me before I became a gun owner, but it all naturally came to me. However, I do have one horror story. About two years into being a gun owner, and having quite a selection of guns and various calibers, I made a big mistake. I was at the range, alone. I pulled out one of my handguns, loaded it, and started firing it. It kept misfiring and I couldn't figure out why until about 3 shots into it. My dumb self had loaded it with the wrong ammo. I think it was a .40cal and I was shooting 9mm, but maybe it was the other way around (it's been a long time so I can't remember which); either way, I was really really lucky that the gun never exploded on me. I've never made that mistake again!
Gouranga
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I would never go to that range. There are too many people shot by unloaded guns every year to allow a gun store owner and employee to get away with that.
And if the '***** are putting the guns for sale in their mouths I would never buy one from them either. "Hey why are the ends of all the new 45's covered in rust?"
OneBigDude
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I was shocked to say the least
orionengnr
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When I was a lad my dad taught me to shoot. By that I mean he taught me the mechanics and a respect for what a firearm can do...no specific safety instruction. He was a WWII Gunner's Mate and I doubt that they had a very regimented safety training program during WWII.
My time in the Navy (mid-late 70s) afforded me the barest minimum of firearms training; nothing that could be termed safety training.
I had the desire, but none of the wisdom. As a new firearms owner I visited public ranges. I made a few minor transgressions and was barked at in no uncertain terms by ROs. A lesson well learned is long remembered.
My pride was bruised, but I sure took those lessons to heart. I made damned sure not to repeat those errors, and did not hold it against the RO or the sport. May just be a coincidence but I am still alive and still enjoying the sport many years later.
There is a huge difference between a volleyball coach and an RO. A transgression in one activity carries the risk of the loss of a point or a game; the other, the loss of a life. Maybe your own, maybe someone else's.
These consequences must be clearly understood by all concerned, and communicated clearly and immediately.
Entirely too many people today have no concept of the consequences of their actions (think of how any people leave their kid to bake inside a car and cry crocodile tears, or kill someone else while driving drunk/texting/other negligent behavior) and get their "feelings" hurt over being held to account to their actions.
I have never had occasion to bark at someone doing something unsafe at my local indoor range. Thank God.
That said, I am too old and have too few days left on this Earth to worry overmuch about someone's "feelings" if he/she does something demonstrably stupid/negligent/dangerous in my presence.
My time in the Navy (mid-late 70s) afforded me the barest minimum of firearms training; nothing that could be termed safety training.
I had the desire, but none of the wisdom. As a new firearms owner I visited public ranges. I made a few minor transgressions and was barked at in no uncertain terms by ROs. A lesson well learned is long remembered.
My pride was bruised, but I sure took those lessons to heart. I made damned sure not to repeat those errors, and did not hold it against the RO or the sport. May just be a coincidence
but I am still alive and still enjoying the sport many years later.There is a huge difference between a volleyball coach and an RO. A transgression in one activity carries the risk of the loss of a point or a game; the other, the loss of a life. Maybe your own, maybe someone else's.
These consequences must be clearly understood by all concerned, and communicated clearly and immediately.
Entirely too many people today have no concept of the consequences of their actions (think of how any people leave their kid to bake inside a car and cry crocodile tears, or kill someone else while driving drunk/texting/other negligent behavior) and get their "feelings" hurt over being held to account to their actions.
I have never had occasion to bark at someone doing something unsafe at my local indoor range. Thank God.
That said, I am too old and have too few days left on this Earth to worry overmuch about someone's "feelings" if he/she does something demonstrably stupid/negligent/dangerous in my presence.
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PavePusher
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Gouranga wrote: "she turns to all of us on her right side to tell us how awesome the gun is and swept the line."
This is why I always station myself directly behind new shooters (almost breathing down their necks) until I am fairly confident they will not do this. (Should be needless to say they get a strict safety lecture beforehand.) Both to be out of any likely line of fire, and to catch them should they start to turn around with lack of muzzle control.
This is why I always station myself directly behind new shooters (almost breathing down their necks) until I am fairly confident they will not do this. (Should be needless to say they get a strict safety lecture beforehand.) Both to be out of any likely line of fire, and to catch them should they start to turn around with lack of muzzle control.
Of all the asinine laws in CA, I actually agree with the HSC Certificate requirement. However, it only applies to purchase, not rental, so the ranges sometimes get 'exciting'. Whenever I get a lane next to the wall and see all the holes in the wall and ceiling, it makes me nervous. It's why I like to go on a weekday to try to avoid some of the weekenders who are at the range for the first time.
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/hscinfo.php
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/hscinfo.php
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