upgrading a classic Colt 1911 civilian model??

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This is my father's old Colt 1911 Civilian model .45acp

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A beautiful almost pristine condition 1911 Civilian model, the gun was/is probably in NRA excellent condition (it had all original parts when purchased, original barrel, bushing, grips, sights, magazine, etc) except for one thing... someone nickelplated the gun half a century ago (before my dad purchased it) and thereby destroyed it's collectors value. But that is also what made it cheap to purchase! It was his first pistol, and was my first pistol in the process. I was a kid when it was purchased, and we shot it hundreds of times together, maybe tens of thousands of rounds. We shot it so much we wore out the original barrel, wore out the magazine, and shot the front sight off the gun - so these are no longer original parts, although I do have the original parts. The gun was/is very special to me, and he passed away a few years ago and the gun came to me... It sits in a gun safe, safe from theiving hands and damage, but rarely seeing the light of day since I have several more reliable and more accurate pistols.

My question is:

Am I better off leaving the gun as is since it is somewhat rare, and letting it spend the next 20 or 30 years in a gun safe until it passes to my son, or my son's son?

Or would it be okay to modify it and bring it "up to date" so that I would feel comfortable using the gun as a concealed carry piece (since Missouri now allows it), and somewhat changing it's status in my minds and maybe my son's mind to be "MY" gun in addition to being dad's gun before that...

My plan is to add the low Colt ambi safety, 3 dot night sights, a new stainless barrel and bushing, new springs throughout, an upgraded ejector and maybe some porting so it will feed JHP ammo reliably, wider tang and some frame checkering, and finally, I am planning to have it refinished back to a deep blue, or possibly a 2tone, with blued slide and hardchromed frame...

What do you think?

OK to do? or blasphemous, and major bad charma?
 
I would not do anything involving cutting on the slide or frame. Any change to replaceable parts like barrel and sights to get it shooting well again seems appropriate to me. I am not subject to hammer bite so it would not need a beavertail for moderate shooting. A good thing, the nice ones have to be cut in, the drop-ins are ugly. If it were my family heirloom, I would leave it nickel just for the memories. I have an old .38 Super in peeling nickel that I had equipped with black sights, a trigger job, and a 9mm barrel for the cheap ammo.

I don't know if I would carry it on permit, though. If you got in a shooting scrape, even though legitimate self defense, it could go neglected in an evidence locker and be returned rusty and battered much later. Or never.

You could talk to Doug Turnbull about having it truly restored to 1920 original appearance, but that would cost about as much as a whole new gun.
 
Well for the record, commercial model 1911's were available in nickel plate.

There is no reason to not make “reversible†modifications such as a new barrel and bushing, springs, and magazines. I wouldn’t change the finish, and I wouldn’t change the sights. A new ejector probably isn’t necessary.

I would see it as something that should be used, and passed on down through the family. But a lot of the rest you propose is out of character with the gun and when it was made. Save it for what it is.
 
Depends on how heavily it was buffed before plating.

My current project gun (about to head off to be Tefloned tomorrow) is built on a '66 Commercial Colt that someone had done a ham-handed job of checkering on and then did an even worse re-bluing. You can't un-ring a bell, so I had the checkering cleaned up, installed the various bits I can't live without, and cleaned up the finish. The gun is going off to the finishers tomorrow, and when I get it back it will be more "mine" than any other 1911 I own... :)

Mmmmm... Dlask hammer, STI trigger, Ed Brown grip safety, S&A flat checkered mainspring housing with lanyard loop, Trijicon sights, an old McCormick thumb safety I had lying around... Yummy... And all picked by me! :)
 
If it was me, I would replace part to get it working as a range gun, and just enjoy it that way. You can then continue the family tradition by teaming up with your son and shooting another barrel out :D . BTW, my father passed away a year ago in March and what I wouldn't give for his old 1911. . .

You have other guns, no? So you can carry one of those other guns.
 
Thanks for all the replies guys, I have been torn over this. Like many of you, I think I would end up regretting the serious changed to the gun... although I must admit, I have never really considered trying to restore it to original Commercial 1911 condition.

Someone mentioned that the Commercial 1911s WERE available nickel plated... that is actually shocking news to me! Every resource my dad checked with in the 1970s and 1980s stated that 1911s only came blued... that is the only reason he and I always assumed it had been nickel-plated in the aftermarket very very early in it's life. If they were available nickelplated from the factory, then I really believe this gun is quite likely a factory nickel gun. The nickel plating is very old - my dad always just assumed whoever bought the gun factory new had it plated in the 1920s or 1930s because there are NO flaws, no damage underneath that nickel, it is everywhere on the gun, on every part, and worn parts get that goldish color that shows what is underneath nickel, and there is just no evidence of a different finish anywhere on the gun.

Is there any way to confirm a serial number to be a factory nickel gun?

Thanks again guys!
 
hmmm...

Well...let's see, how did your Dad handle it? Did he hide it in a safe 'til he died?

...or do you have something you can share with your kids because he did what was necessary to keep it running?


hmmm...

g2:cool:
 
I am not aware of Colt applying a nickel finish to 1911's. The 1911 commercial model was available in the standard blue or highly polished blue finishes. Colt did nickel plate some commercial 1911-A1's.
 
Starting about 1914 Colt offered nickel plate as a special order option on 1911 commercial pistols. They also offered engraving in different grades and optional gold and silver plating. Plain and carved pearl and ivory grips were available for those who had a pocketbook that would stand the strain. Needless to say, blue was standard and the most common by far. Judging from the photographs I think the gun that is the subject of this thread is likely refinished - blue to nickel plate. But the fact remains that there was such a thing as factory nickel plated 1911 pistols.

Nickel plate was offered as a "standard finish," (rather then special order) starting in 1935.
 
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