Urgent, help with TN gun laws

[HexHead]

TN: You can't have a loaded gun in your vehicle unless you have a HCP. Period.

If you have a HCP, you may have a loaded rifle in your vehicle, as long as there's no round in the chamber. I can have my AK-74 with 30 round mag inserted behind my seat and be perfectly legal as long as the chamber is empty.

 

[razorback2003]

I'm surprised your co worker was arrested for carrying a handgun without a permit. It is generally a misdemeanor and a lot of places just give you a court summons. Most people are just fined.

 

[Bill Jones]

Sorry, double post.

 

[Bill Jones]

Thanks. Do you work at eastman?

Yes I do.

 

[JBrady555]

Yes I do.

I work for National Boiler Services. We do most of if not all of the boiler pressure part work out there. Eastman keeps us pretty busy, I spend probably half of all my work days for the year at that plant.

 

[JBrady555]

After speaking with my buddy he said he was arrested for possession of a loaded gun in his car. He has applied for his NC permit but it hasn't gone through yet. He told the officer this trying to save a trip to the slammer, it didn't work. Yesterday while at the courthouse a few other TN officers said that many of the LEO's don't arrest folks in that situation, they just explain the law to people and make them follow accordingly.

 

[mgkdrgn]

I do not have a florida permit

Sounds like when you get home it would be a good time to get one, eh?

 

[JBrady555]

There's more going on with the arrest than we are being told. That's pretty much a certainty.

No there is not. How can you be so certain? The law clearly states that he could be arrested for carrying the gun loaded without a permit. What more would be going on with the arrest?

 

[JBrady555]

Sounds like when you get home it would be a good time to get one, eh?

It sure is. I keep putting it off every time I'm home, but after this experience I will be doing my CCW class as soon as I get layed off. Sad thing is that my last stint at home lasted six weeks where I was bored to death at least half the time, should have done it then. Anyone know how long it takes to get your permit after the paperwork is submitted in FL?

 

[Fryerpower]

TN: You can't have a loaded gun in your vehicle unless you have a HCP. Period.

If you have a HCP, you may have a loaded rifle in your vehicle, as long as there's no round in the chamber. I can have my AK-74 with 30 round mag inserted behind my seat and be perfectly legal as long as the chamber is empty.

You can even have one in the chamber if you are in "immanent danger"! It had better be the real deal. Don't try playing games with that exemption.

To the OP, get a TN non-resident permit. There is a good chance it is more widely accepted than your FL resident permit, plus it would include the loaded long gun feature. TN will honor your FL resident permit, but unless you can carry a loaded long gun in FL they will not extend that right to you with a FL resident permit.

Jim

 

[jack44]

I have my Wis.CCW and I cant have a load gun in my truck either!.

 

[Bubba613]

No there is not. How can you be so certain? The law clearly states that he could be arrested for carrying the gun loaded without a permit. What more would be going on with the arrest?

Because I've lived in this state for 30 years+, 7 of them as an FFL and what you describe is completely atypical.

To the OP, get a TN non-resident permit.

There is no provision, to my knowledge, for a non resident handgun carry permit in TN. He could get one in another state that TN honors, I suppose.

 

[HexHead]

You can even have one in the chamber if you are in "immanent danger"! It had better be the real deal. Don't try playing games with that exemption.

Yes, consider the same criteria as for drawing your handgun from it's holster where it wouldn't be considered brandishing.

 

[Sam1911]

There is no provision, to my knowledge, for a non resident handgun carry permit in TN. He could get one in another state that TN honors, I suppose.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/tennessee.pdf

Non-Resident Permits
Tennessee will issue Non-Resident Permit/Licenses to individuals who meet the qualifications as listed below. ...

 

[Speedo66]

Sorry, but I can't comprehend that anyone travels around in other states having no idea as to what's legal and what's not.

If you don't know the law, don't carry firearms, loaded or unloaded, in your car or on your person. Asking on the internet for legal advice is just wrong, especially after the fact.

Your long term personal freedom is worth doing a little research before you travel.

 

[Frank Ettin]

...If you don't know the law, don't carry firearms, loaded or unloaded, in your car or on your person. Asking on the internet for legal advice is just wrong,...

1. Yes, if one has firearms, especially if one travels with firearms, he absolutely needs to understand applicable law. But once one realizes that, he needs to start somewhere.
   
   
2. I don't see that the OP is asking for legal advice per se. But he is asking for information about the law. And the first step is knowing that you don't know something.
   
   
3. And while this is a bad place to come for legal advice, it can be a good place to come to be pointed in the direction of available resources. Yes, research is necessary, but research has to start somewhere.
   
   
4. So your comments really weren't helpful.

 

[Speedo66]

1. Yes, if one has firearms, especially if one travels with firearms, he absolutely needs to understand applicable law. But once one realizes that, he needs to start somewhere.
   
   
2. I don't see that the OP is asking for legal advice per se. But he is asking for information about the law. And the first step is knowing that you don't know something.
   
   
3. And while this is a bad place to come for legal advice, it can be a good place to come to be pointed in the direction of available resources. Yes, research is necessary, but research has to start somewhere.
   
   
4. So your comments really weren't helpful.

I would respectfully disagree. If my comment not to travel to other states unless you know their laws prevents one person from winding up in this situation, well, then I feel I've given good (and helpful) advice.

Sorry if I have little tolerance for people with a "<deleted> happens" attitude, rather than taking responsibility for their actions. These same people then expect, sometimes demand, others to save them from themselves. I don't want to hear "it's not my fault" if you can't take a few moments to save your own butt. Heard way too much of that in my former line of work.

 

[Frank Ettin]

1. Yes, if one has firearms, especially if one travels with firearms, he absolutely needs to understand applicable law. But once one realizes that, he needs to start somewhere.
   
   
2. I don't see that the OP is asking for legal advice per se. But he is asking for information about the law. And the first step is knowing that you don't know something.
   
   
3. And while this is a bad place to come for legal advice, it can be a good place to come to be pointed in the direction of available resources. Yes, research is necessary, but research has to start somewhere.
   
   
4. So your comments really weren't helpful.

I would respectfully disagree. If my comment not to travel to other states unless you know their laws prevents one person from winding up in this situation, well, then I feel I've given good (and helpful) advice.

Sorry if I have little tolerance for people with a "<deleted> happens" attitude, rather than taking responsibility for their actions. These same people then expect, sometimes demand, others to save them from themselves. I don't want to hear "it's not my fault" if you can't take a few moments to save your own butt. Heard way too much of that in my former line of work.

Since you chose to make this public, I will respond in public.

While I agree that one needs to know the law and that he really has no cause to complain if his ignorance of the law gets him into trouble, I find your comments to the OP, who is now trying to learn and understand what the law is, to be needless snide and snarky. He knows he needs to know that law. Your goading him doesn't help.

 

[Skyshot]

I'll echo what others have said, just keep everything unloaded while in your auto. A lot depends upon the LEO and your attitude at the time of the stop. I would first come clean with the fact you have firearms in your possession at the time of the stop. If nothing is loaded you should be OK. It's the loaded firearm that make's you look you have some sort of intent. Another thing is make sure your vehicle is up to road worthy standards, no use in giving them a reason to stop you. Driving around with out of state plates and lights or signals that don't work or your speeding and the fact you have firearms aboard, well!!!

 

[Wishoot]

I have my Wis.CCW and I cant have a load gun in my truck either!.

So you don't have a Wisconsin CCW permit then?

Far as I know, a licensed CCW holder in Wisconsin can carry in their car or anywhere else that is not prohibited.

 

[Frank Ettin]

The OP has asked this be closed.