US facing wave of violent crimes

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060820/pl_nm/crime_usa_dc_1

Interesting read. They blame lax gun laws though and all semi-autos are assault weapons :rolleyes: Of course the former does not explain the increase in violent crime in DC. However, I agree with the point about fighting terrorism at the expense of regular crime fight. All the more reason to be prepared for the worst and hope for the best.
 
In Miami, while overall crime is down, the use of semi-automatic weapons* is growing.

"These things are dirt cheap," Police Chief John Timoney told Reuters, estimating the street price at $250 each. "We have seen these assault weapons* being used time and time again by drug gangs."
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So let's revoke the "Castle Doctrine," pass more "gun control" laws, disarm the legal gun owner, and the problem will go away. I can see it now. How stupid things get started.

(*Use of italics is mine. Funny how the correlation between any semi-automatic firearm and assault weapons keeps going, and going, and...)

From the expiration of a federal ban on assault rifles to tougher restrictions on databases that identify gun owners, gun laws have weakened in the past five years, said Daniel Vice, an attorney with the Brady Center to Prevent Handgun Violence.

"The top five states with the highest gun death rates are five states with incredibly weak gun laws," he said, listing Louisiana, Alabama, Alaska, New Mexico and Wyoming.
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Now this is the first time I have heard this *fact?*.
 
How many of those gun deaths are bad guys?

If I shoot a bad guy in self defense, isn't that a "gun death" to these people?
 
Now this is the first time I have heard this *fact?*.
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I can see it now. Gun owner gets killed in a car crash on his way to the range.

Brady Bunch headline:

"Man's death due to firearms"

Betcha a dollar to a dime they do that all the time.
 
Well I would blame lots of it on the weather. Been unusually hot over an unusually large part of the country. Just leads to ill tempered people. And grows from there.
 
From the expiration of a federal ban on assault rifles to tougher restrictions on databases that identify gun owners, gun laws have weakened in the past five years, said Daniel Vice, an attorney with the Brady Center to Prevent Handgun Violence.

"The top five states with the highest gun death rates are five states with incredibly weak gun laws," he said, listing Louisiana, Alabama, Alaska, New Mexico and Wyoming.
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I'd like to know the number of those who were killed while commiting a crime or who killed themselves.
 
I noticed this "report" came from Reuters - the same people who brought us doctored photos of the Israeli attacks in Lebanon, exaggerated accounts of violence in New Orleans after the floods, etc...
This British - owned news agency is known for its anti-american sentiment and bias in reporting anything that smacks of constitutional freedom.
 
It's already starting.
The Liberal left wing is leading in the polls and we all know what is going to happen with the issue of firearms in America if they achieve their goal of dominating the Senate and House and the Presidency and the majority of State rule.

Oh yeah, crackheads are too doped up and stupid to understand the true value of anything including human life.
When a rock costs ten bucks, two hundred and fifty bucks for a piece of stolen booty is a gold mine.
The Cop might consider the real problem before commenting on the going rate of anything on his own street.
 
This got me looking around the web... first thing is that these rankings include ALL deaths by firearms (murder, accidents, suicides and justifiable homicide in self-defense--- either by police or civilian). I found a chart ranking all state by their violent crime rates:

http://www.ocjc.state.or.us/IndexCrimeRates03.htm

I also looked up the Brady grades for 2003:

http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/reportcards/2003/details.pdf

Doing a little comparison there I came up with this interesting list of the ten states with the lowest violent crime rates in 2003 and their comparative Brady grade:

N. Dakota D
Maine D-
Vermont D-
New Hamp. D-
S. Dakota D
Wisconson C+
Idaho F+
Utah D-
W. Virginia D
Kentucky F

So from these stats you could easily claim that the 10 safest states to live in (according to FBI UCR data) are very gun friendly states.

Other interesting things I took note of: Wyoming, which was #3 in the Firearms Death Ranking has one of the lowest murder rates in the US at only 2.2 per 100,000... bested only by Delaware (Brady C, 2.0 per 100K), Utah ( Brady grade of D-, 1.9 per 100K), Iowas (Brady C-, 1.6 per 100K) New Hampshire (Brady D-, 1.4 per 100K), N. Dakota (Brady D, 1.4 per 100K) and Maine (Brady D-, also 1.4 per 100K).

The lesson here is that unless you're willing to spend some time really researching the numbers, don't trust these kind of reports.... numbers can be presented in such a way as to say nearly anything!

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From the expiration of a federal ban on assault rifles to tougher restrictions on databases that identify gun owners, gun laws have weakened in the past five years, said Daniel Vice, an attorney with the Brady Center to Prevent Handgun Violence.
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Unfortunately for this guy's little theory, all rifles COMBINED account for only 2.8% of homicides, a fact that five minutes of Googling would have turned up.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/offense_tabulations/table_20-22.html

"The top five states with the highest gun death rates are five states with incredibly weak gun laws," he said, listing Louisiana, Alabama, Alaska, New Mexico and Wyoming.
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Funny that many of the states with the lowest gun-crime rates have the same laws. Last year, the state with the lowest crime rate in the nation was Maine, which has less restrictive gun laws than Alabama...
 
First, Timoney is the former police commissioner of Philadelphia. he had issues with guns then, and he has issues with guns now. Don't confuse me with facts, please.

Second, violent crime can be linked to the 15-25 demographic, the age group most likelyto commit violent street crime. That group is expanding right now (it runs in 15-year cycles), and with it we can expect an expansion in violent crime.
 
Heh, getting gun "facts" from a Brady Center.........attorney! There's a professional, unbiased, trustworthy source. :uhoh:

Yep, you're much safer in DC or NYC then anywhere in Wyoming.:rolleyes:
 
Violent crime in Florida is notably down. Gov. Jeb Bush recently publically attributed a part of the reason to the legal carrying of firearms. Some areas have had a recent spate of murders but here in Jax, 95, or more,percent are gang and/or respect issue related, both illegally carried firearms. One Mo' time - stronger penalties = less gun crime..
 
Our local carry forum (MN) has a thread on the subject that is currently active. On the top of the page you will see the stats being quoted by our local MM's, scroll to the bottom you will find a very succinct reubbutal:

http://www.twincitiescarry.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2350&start=15

Here in MN (actually, just two neighborhoods in Minneapolis) we have gangs of punk kids shaking people down, and 'bustin caps' after every rap concert and basically the city fathers won't do anything about it excpet to take away the guns of everyone who DIDN'T do it.
 
First, Timoney is the former police commissioner of Philadelphia. he had issues with guns then, and he has issues with guns now. Don't confuse me with facts, please.
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Timoney's problems with guns go way beyond the City of Brotherly love. He came to NYC when he was 13 from Ireland (not exaclty a gun-loving country) and was with the NYPD starting as an officer all the way up to Deputy Commissioner when he retired in 1996. He's (likely) been anti-gun his entire professional life.
 
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