US out of the UN ?

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Tuesday, April 6, 2004

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U.S. should follow Utah's example


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It seems that Utah is one state that has come to a realization of what the score is regarding our national survival, and I wish to absolutely urge all other states to follow the example of Utah and the heroes of Utah who championed H.J.R. 3 legislation in the Utah House of Representatives to get us out of the United Nations!

I refer to the recent news report "Utah House passes resolution to get the U.S. out of the United Nations." The heroes in this case are the head of The Northern Utah Get US Out! Committee, Elizabeth Ann Turner and the educational efforts of her and The John Birch Society and committee members, and the statesmanship of state Rep. Don Bush and Sen. David Thomas who sponsored this resolution to get us out of the U.N., and disentangle us from the parasitic governments around the world that suck our life blood in foreign aid used to brutalize their own people, attack us and drag us into their insane foreign wars.

Our country is being destroyed by the modern barbarians of the U.N. organization who harbor every terrorist nation on the planet at the U.N. building in New York with complete diplomatic immunity to come and go at will! Let's keep the ball rolling in Utah and follow Utah's lead and take this issue on to the U.S. Congress.

Ed Nemechek

Landers, Calif.

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Originally published Tuesday, April 6, 2004

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Interesting thought. What do you think?
 
This is extremely silly. By staying in the UN, we can veto almost everything. Hence even if the UN is the enemy, we can stymie its efforts much more effectively by staying in and using our veto.
 
Amen!

One of the immediate benefits of getting out of the UN is that idiots like sKerry wouldn't be panting to surrender our sovereignty to this outfit.

We should give the bass t*rds about twenty minutes to pack up and clear out before we level the building, salt the spot and pave it over. Maybe erect a statue of a giant dove with an olive branch in its beak and its middle feather raised in salute to all the tinhorn dictators who have been sucking our money and liberty out of us through this corrupt monster for half a century. We should leave one big hole in the pavement into which we will toss all the lame brains who are against this proposal.

That's my peaceful solution to the thing. The non peaceful version removes the twenty minute warning.

Excuse me while I crawl under my desk as the brickbats start flying.

hehhehheh.

rr
 
Sean -You're right. staying in lets us veto most policies in the UN. Unfortunately, staying in also allows some American politicians cozy up to the socialists and dictators in the UN when they get elected.:barf:

Ravin- I like your solution more than I dislike it.

Doesn't the US Constitution have something to say about individual states making treaties with foreign governments? Would the UN be considered a foreign government? I think that unfortunately, Utah's resolution isn't very effective, however it might help to shape US national policy.

-Jim
 
Staying in the U.N. gives us power over the U.N. As Bush proved a year ago, the U.N. has no power over us. We are a sovereign nation and as such answer only to God. The U.N. is a collection of sovereign nations, a beauracracy that spends more time with infighting and back slapping than with taking action. As such, by staying in it we can keep these idiots divided over issues that adversely affect us while we take our own action. Veto authority in the U.N. helps us keep the world from presenting an unified anti-American front.

As for the socialists among us, we can take care of them in November.
 
How about this suggestion?

We stay in the UN, but drasticly cut back the dues we pay the the soldiers we provide.

That way we can use our veto powers to maintain control, and reduce the flow of our taxes into the beast.
 
I was just thinking this morning, that one way to reduce the annoyance of the UN would be to move the HQ from NYC to somewhere remote and unpleasant. Mongolia, or some such. (Nothing against Mongolia, it just popped into my head as an example of somewhere remote that isn't a hotbed of anti-Americanism.
This would help reduce the number of annoying busybodies who want to serve on these stupid UN committees that are always churing out reports blaming the US for the world's problem while demanding we give them money to solve said problem. Make their workplace less fun (not that NYC is my idea of fun) and they won't want to work there.
On the up side, it'll help out the economy of a friendly country without a huge cost to us.
 
I love the UN as much as my dog loves getting a flea dip..

Last time I checked, handing our soverignty to the boyz in light blue wasn't in the Constitution.

I think the UN brings "Repugnant to the Constitution" to a whole new light.

Why I almost want to throw something at anybody here in Taiwan that says they are trying to encourage Taiwan in joining the UN..:barf:

We can save our money and our soverignty at the same time by getting out..
 
"We pay hundreds of millions each year to be a member of the UN."

Actually, it's more like billions. That and we are the military arm of the UN. We do almost all the dirty work. It's our boys who do the fighting and it's our taxes that (for the most part) cover their salaries, medical expenses, ammo, armor, equipment costs, and transportation fees.

In terms of what each country contributes to the UN, we are the UN. Who has the reigns is another matter. I'm all for cutting our funding to the UN and reducing our troop "In the name of the UN" troop deployments. Let the freeloaders get shot at for awhile.
 
By staying in the UN, we can veto almost everything. Hence even if the UN is the enemy, we can stymie its efforts much more effectively by staying in and using our veto.
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If we get out, we remove their cash cow; and they will fold and die like the League of Nations before them.

We pay 25% of the entire budget of the U.N and we pay 32% of all "peace keeping" actions.
 
Langenator

Nothing against Mongolia, it just popped into my head as an example of somewhere remote that isn't a hotbed of anti-Americanism.
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I hear the Gobi Desert is lovely this time of year. :D
 
Jim Peel,
If that's all it takes, is pointing to it on a map, to be considered a foreign government then hand over that map of Manhattan.:D

I'd think that it would be a foreign government because don't its workers enjoy diplomatic immunity to some degree?

Yes, the US pays lots of money to the UN each year and we do provide soldiers quite a bit than other countries. I definitely agree with pulling the plug financially.

There was recently a movement in the UN for a new building. The US is supposed to provide a loan to the UN to fund the reconstruction, and then the US, as a member of the UN is supposed to pick up most of the loan repayment. Sounds like Anan wants a new building and the US to pay for it. That's ludicrous.

-Jim
 
I still think keeping a 'seat' and cutting the funding is a great way to show them who's really in charge.
 
Eskimo Jim

If that's all it takes, is pointing to it on a map, to be considered a foreign government then hand over that map of Manhattan.
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Sure, just give me $24 worth of trinkets and beads. :neener:
 
Jim Peel,
I don't want to BUY Manhattan, I just want to point to it on a map.:D Besides $24 worth of trinketts is WAY, way too much money for the place. It would cost billions to clean up and relocate the garbage. Then I'd have to take care of the trash too:banghead:

Getting back on topic, I say cut funding drastically. Pay for the office space at most for our staff to use and then cut the rest of the funding. Also, don't put US troops on dubious peace keeping missions anymore. That's my take on the UN.

If they want a new building, let each member nation pay for their proportional share of it.

How about sticking the new UN building in the middle of nowhere? Antarctica sounds good to me or maybe out in Kansas. (Sorry Kansans, nothing personal)

-Jim
 
I favor moving the UN to the Sudan. Then enjoy the sight of Kofi Annan and the french UN rep chasing the women of Sudan.

Change voting power to one vote for each dollar contributed to the UN or revert to a simple country tax. Either method is acceptable.

Stay in the UN to keep talking but under no circumstances cede moral authority to that pit of slugs.
 
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