US to relax airline scissor ban

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Its a few days old, but I didn't notice anyone mention it here, so I thought I'd post it.

Seems some sense is returning to the rules on what can be takken on a plane (but note the comment (bold) by Association of Flight Attendants spokeswoman).


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4487162.stm

US to relax airline scissor ban

Opponents of the plan insist blades on planes remain a danger
The US is to relax its post-9/11 ban on airline passengers carrying sharp objects, in a move which has alarmed flight attendants and some politicians.
Small scissors and similar items will be allowed from 22 December, says transport security chief Kip Hawley.

Screeners will spend more time checking for explosives under guidelines which will allow for more random searches.

The 9/11 hijackers used small box-cutting knives to seize the planes which they then flew into buildings.

Box cutters and other kinds of knives will remain banned.

The ban on carrying sharp objects on to planes was introduced following the hijackings, in which almost 3,000 people were killed.

The pilots will be able to land the plane safely but the aisles will be running with blood

Corey Caldwell

Objects such as scissors and razors were placed on a list which meant they could not be carried as hand luggage into the cabin of a plane, and had to be stored in luggage in the hold.

The practice has been followed in other countries since then.

New priorities

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) said earlier that it was planning to make better use of its resources.

Mr Hawley, head of the TSA, said that small scissors and tools accounted for about 25% of prohibited items found in passengers' carry-on bags.

Along with small scissors, tools like screwdrivers, wrenches and pliers less than 18cm long will be removed from the prohibited items list.

It was vital, he said, that terrorists should not be able to know with certainty what screening procedures they would encounter at US airports.

"By incorporating unpredictability into our procedures and eliminating low-threat items, we can better focus our efforts on stopping individuals who wish to do us harm," he added.

'Greatest risk'

Air Transport Association spokesman David Castelveter said earlier that he was aware of the plans, and that the industry supported them.

"What we believe, as does the TSA, is that we should be focusing on what poses the greatest risk," he said.

But many flight attendants believe that while such objects could not be used to carry out a 9/11 style hijacking, the items could still be used as weapons to injure other passengers or crew members.

"When weapons are allowed back on board an aircraft, the pilots will be able to land the plane safely but the aisles will be running with blood," said Corey Caldwell, a spokeswoman for the Association of Flight Attendants.


Two US Congressmen, Ed Markey and Joseph Crowley, have said they will oppose relaxing the ban with a bill.

"The Bush administration proposal is just asking the next Mohamed Atta [9/11 hijacker] to move from box-cutters to scissors as the weapon that's used in the passenger cabin of planes," Mr Markey said.
 
This is an issue of trust.. At work I give drugs that if I dont have the right amount I could kill a patient......I have a CCW......I can be trusted. I would like to carry my xd9 while flying. I can carry on a bus,car, boat, highrise but by God there is a bubble of preotection on those planes:rolleyes:

When is this country going to have a real discuss on real protection that favors the liberty of the individual american and not be a reason to grow the Fed Govt wereby putting real limits on our rights???
4 years after 9/11 and how safe is our borders again??? 4 years after 9/11 our "appearence" of security rocks.

Sorry sorry that independant bone keeps getting out of joint,

We should just wait till the Govt finds the answers for us.
 
On a related topic, what is going on with the program to allow Pilots to be armed? I had heard that the TSA was not very fond of the program a while back.
 
Want to know how to stop hijackings?

Get rid of every idiotic weapon ban shot of bombs or missle launchers and crap like that you could use to bring the plane down in one shot. I was actually joking the other day that they should issue everyone boarding the plane a gun and ammo...not really weapons safty and instruction and all but the point was still behind it.

I saw on the local news tonight that the pasangers actually subdued a guy that had been running up and down the isles yelling and then tried to break into the cock pit and was tackled by six other pasangers, the flight was between cali and hawaii so wasnt a short flight either.
 
So TSA changes its acronym from "Taking Scissors Away" to "Thousands Standing Around"? I fly quite a bit as my job requires it, and doesn't allow me to take the time to drive to the destination.
For all the hub-bub about how we need more and more security on airplanes, I think we need to look at airlines as what they are: Government subsidized bus service with extremely highly paid drivers. I'm so tired of the aura of mystery that airports have. The only mystery I find is just when did we give away all our rights????? Go through the bill of rights and see how many you DON'T have in an airport.
 
The real question is where can I get a set of tactical scissors that I can carry on a plane, since I can't take my guns or knives?
 
I'll drive - I can carry what I want, my car doesn't ask me for ID before I start it and my bags aren't subject to search.
 
MechAg94: On a related topic, what is going on with the program to allow Pilots to be armed?
From what I've heard from others and read, there are over 5,000 FFDOs now. Maybe closer to 8,000... I don't know for certain.
 
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