Dittos re: the 94, which I love and ownership of which is a family tradition. Sadly, some really crummy ones came out under that name. I'm not referring to some of the no-frills "Rangers" and so forth, that's a matter of stockwood and detail, and I actually love my Olin-era 94. But I've seen some REALLY embarassing objects out there over the years. One from the mid 1970s had some sort of black painted-on finish; I used to know the name, I looked into it out of morbid curiosity. Sort of spalded and flaked off. Others had what looked like wierd little stamped pieces of tin inside instead of steel parts. Mine isn't one of the vintage classics, and I'm not foolish enough to say it is, but by God, some embarassing examples were allowed to escape into the world. And I'm saying that about a firearm I love. Marlin offered cheapo guns through merchandisers, and I've even had one years ago, but I've never seen a truly crummy one. I'm a Winchester man, but it takes an eye. Marlin is a little easier.