Using 308 in a 30-06
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R.W.Dale
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Using 308 ammunition in a 30-06 would be a the start of a very BAD day for you.
Using 308 ammunition in a 30-06 would be a the start of a very BAD day for you.
Floppy_D
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@krochus: Given that this is under Reloading and he said "bullet," he may mean putting a 308 bullet in a 30-06 case.
If this is the case, the bullets are the same diameter, so yes.
If this is the case, the bullets are the same diameter, so yes.
R.W.Dale
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Then he should know this already. NEVER ASSUME! One answer has him scratching his head finding the right component bullets, the other has several thousand PSI worth of hot gas spewing into his face and eyes
Given the way the OP is worded I'm gonna wager loaded ammo is the topic for discussion.
Floppy_D
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OP hasn't posted much about reloading, so you're probably right. You win this one krochus, but you better watch your six. 
0.308-inches is the diameter of a 30 caliber bullet (or 'projectile' to be clear).
Cartridges like 308 Winchester simply use the full designation, where other cartridge names use the abbreviated 30 or 300 designation: .30-'06, 300 Win Mag, 300 Savage, .30-30, etc. But all use the same projectiles. 7.62mm military cartidges use the exact same bullet, with the exception of Russian cartridges. 303 British is also different.
If you're interested in reloading, get two or more of the published books on the subject: Lyman, Speer, Sierra, Hornady, Lee, Nosler, ABC's of Reloading. Pick any two. They contain just about all the learning you need.
Cartridges like 308 Winchester simply use the full designation, where other cartridge names use the abbreviated 30 or 300 designation: .30-'06, 300 Win Mag, 300 Savage, .30-30, etc. But all use the same projectiles. 7.62mm military cartidges use the exact same bullet, with the exception of Russian cartridges. 303 British is also different.
If you're interested in reloading, get two or more of the published books on the subject: Lyman, Speer, Sierra, Hornady, Lee, Nosler, ABC's of Reloading. Pick any two. They contain just about all the learning you need.
Floppy_D
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+1 manual.
PA Freedom
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First, buy a currently published manual. Anything you don't understand, be sure to ask. There are no dumb questions when it comes to handloading. Be safe.
rcmodel
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If you had to ask that question you probably shouldn't be reloading .308" bullets in anything until you read at least one reloading manual.
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SquirrelNuts
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You can use the same bullets for 308 Winchester as .30-06 Springfield as have been noted above.
Reloading for a M1 Garand is different that reloading for .30-06 in general. It is not a huge difference, you just have to be careful and use the correct type of powder and stay under slightly different max load data. Do an advanced search for M1 Garand and select Handloading and Reloading for the Forum. There is a boat load of M1 Garand data out there. Many recipes seem to favor 4895.
Reloading for a M1 Garand is different that reloading for .30-06 in general. It is not a huge difference, you just have to be careful and use the correct type of powder and stay under slightly different max load data. Do an advanced search for M1 Garand and select Handloading and Reloading for the Forum. There is a boat load of M1 Garand data out there. Many recipes seem to favor 4895.
Regarding the use of .308 Win. ammo (or 7.62 NATO, too, for that matter) in a .30-06 Garand, many hundreds of rounds were so fired by the USN and USAF folks in their Garands they thought had been converted to the NATO round. Many time, someone would shoot 15 to 20 shots and not notice anything until a score keeper noticed the fired cases looked like a regular .30-06 case without a neck. These converted Garands came into service in the early 1960's but only used by the USAF and USN recruit training ranges and those shooting high power rifle competition. All other commands still used the 30 caliber Garands.
The NATO case was held in the chamber at its shoulder which was a bit larger in diameter than the 30 caliber one; this let the firing pin pop the primer and fire the round. As peak pressure was quite a bit lower, muzzle velocity was down enough to require more than normal come ups on the sight as the trainees went to the next longer range. Rarely was there a problem in rapid fire as the NATO rounds fed and fired just fine with the port pressure still enough to function the rifle.
The NATO case was held in the chamber at its shoulder which was a bit larger in diameter than the 30 caliber one; this let the firing pin pop the primer and fire the round. As peak pressure was quite a bit lower, muzzle velocity was down enough to require more than normal come ups on the sight as the trainees went to the next longer range. Rarely was there a problem in rapid fire as the NATO rounds fed and fired just fine with the port pressure still enough to function the rifle.
No need for two threads on the same topic. Since this one started off on the wrong foot, it's probably the one to close ...
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