Using a .45 smg one-handed at arm's length?

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I would not have believed it possible, but these guys are having some fun with the physics of redirecting the force vectors in a .45 submachinegun: Transformational Defense Industries

Be sure to check out the vid of the thing in operation. The best part comes when the guy holds the weapon one-handed at arm's length, and does about a 6" group with it on full auto at 25 meters. :what:

And it looks like it'll be featured on Discovery Channel's "Future Weapons" series 19 March, 2007.

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I think it would be a particuliarly great design to fashion into a .223 or .308 bullpup.
 
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There's a disturbingly sci-fi quality to the gun.

Kind of a "seen that somewhere in the future" feeling.

Nice control, though.

Need a CCW format.
 
Cool video, but I think they're both leaning more forward, bracing themselves better when firing their own weapon. With the UMP, they're more erect, and appear to be less in control. Makes their weapon look better from a recoil angle perspective. Just my .02.
 
I think it would be a particuliarly great design to fashion into a .223 or .308 bullpup.
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I don’t know. The chamber looks way far forward and the barrel is really short:

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I’m thinking a longer barrel to get decent velocity from a .223/.308 is going to make the weapon extremely muzzle heavy. Plus the moving counter weight they talk about is going to have to be heavier to handle the bigger recoil of a rifle round. (Then again 10 minutes ago I didn’t know this thing existed, and now I saying what rounds it would be suitable for?)
 
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Cool video, but I think they're both leaning more forward, bracing themselves better when firing their own weapon. With the UMP, they're more erect, and appear to be less in control. Makes their weapon look better from a recoil angle perspective. Just my .02.
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Judging by their stances, I dont believe either of them has any training on full auto weapons. Either that, or they are doing what they are doing intentionally for the extra effect, although they also shoot their gun pretty much the same way.

I dont see that its really doing anything whats already available cant do. I'd like to see how the rifle caliber guns work, and how big and bulky they are.
 
If a handgun was built from the ground up with a similar philosophy, I'm sure we could make mousegun-sized self-defense guns with heavier loads but more manageable recoil... and aimed by pointing.

Thing is, as a whole, shooters are very traditional and borderline superstitious (in a sense, with good reason, if they're betting their lives on their arms)... so it's hard for this kind of thing to take off or go forward. But I'm glad research continues....
 
Very interesting. If this item works as well as advertised (big proviso there)
it would make a nice addition to the collection. Unfortunately at this point in time the chances of the average joe getting his hands on one is virtually nil.
Unless we can get the 1986 gun laws round filed full auto is a very expensive and hard to come by hobby.
 
The stance certainly has an effect on accuracy, especially in full-auto. But a good size chunk of that reduction in barrel climb is because the centerline of the barrel is coincidental with the centerline of the arm.
 
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