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Glad you made it back in one piece without missing body parts.I was there at the same time. everything there want to sting, bite make you sick, or kill you!
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Glad you made it back in one piece without missing body parts.I was there at the same time. everything there want to sting, bite make you sick, or kill you!
Isn't that freedom of expression?And that's when it hit me. Right. He wants to wear it. Thats all. Ok.
When other people pay your bills they can have a say in what you wear.
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I was there at the same time. everything there want to sting, bite make you sick, or kill you!
" There it is, don't mean nothing "
RIGHT. ON.When other people pay your bills they can have a say in what you wear.
Amen to that.I served.
I spent my time running around in the woods all dressed up playing army.
I'm done with that.
12-year THR member here. Own more guns than I can count.
These militia dudes playing soldier are embarrassing and make me pine for at least a little bit of sensible gun control. Not looking for a debate - won't even see any replies. But seeing this childishness motivated me to at least state my piece.
that incident was 2 hours after the event was over.NBC:"Police announced one arrest: a 21-year-old Richmond woman charged with wearing a mask in public after she allegedly ignored an officer's warnings to remove a bandanna covering her face."
Why would a woman want a bandanna over her face in thirty-odd degree weather?
no reliable sources. i attempted to count a number of times how many people were in an area and multiply by the number of areas and came up with 50-80k but the number i heard several times was 120k. I can promise you it wasn't 20k. I believe the number of people inside the fence was limited to 6000 or 7000. there's no way even 1 in 10 people through security inside the fence.I'm glad it went well. I didn't think it would. I'm also glad it was so well attended. This might be the largest 2A rally in history.
For those of you saying 50k or 100k in attendance, do you have a reliable source for those estimates? Because I know that, as soon as I say it to someone, they're going to ask me to prove it.
VCDL did make that request. It will be interesting to see if they change their tune next time. It was clearly the wrong call and there wasn't anything about people carrying rifles that was embarrassing.Agreed... They just wanted attention IMHO and look silly. Even VCDL asked that these embarrassments not play dress up and bring long guns. Of course, just as VCDL predicted, these men playing dress up are what's plastered across the media. The photos of these men are what the topic of debate is and what the general public on non-gun related sites and social media.
I'm looking for a debate on the matter either. Nothing said will change my mind, and it's people like this who are one of the major reasons behind Walmart stopping ammo sales and dozens of other retailers and restaurants banning guns. Just because you can doesn't mean you should...
as was pointed out earlier, i don't think there's any justification for that assumption.I see your point but the problem I have with average Joe dressing like a soldier is it implies that he's served. I haven't served and I don't want anybody to be mislead that I have.
it accomplishes several things. keep in mind, the experience of seeing something like a concert or football game on TV vs actually being there is wildly different.I don't have an issue with it other than there's a time and place. I wrote my earlier comment before I seen that mods and others on the forum dressed up as well. I don't mean any disrespect.
The people who dressed up to send a message did just that, but the message they sent doesn't gain our side any support or sympathy form others whose vote we need. All it does is get them high fives from like minded gun owners while turning others off and taking the focus away from the reason we were out there. That is, the message those who where dressed up and carrying long guns think they were sending is lost in translation... Not that the point matters to them...
What you described is how a percentage of the gun community might view seeing people dressed up while OCing long guns...I was there. I chose to leave my plates, helmet/nods, rifle, etc in the truck. I was going to wear a suit (as I do most days), but didn't want to take a chance on someone throwing something at it and ruining it.
The 80-120k people i witnessed, with probably 1/3rd carrying loaded rifles, were clearly patriots and not the typical gun show crowd. Having experienced many hours safely protesting, without so much as being muzzle swept a single time (though I did hear one guy was having a helluva time trying to get inside a portapotty) i can say the effect it had was absolutely worth it and carrying a rifle was the right move. Next time, I'll wear it all.
don't believe the media's spin. they're lying about everything from it being racist, to the number of attendees.
The only thing embarrassing is that someone could spend 12 years on THR and still pine for sensible gun control. Obviously, having a login on a gun forum doesn't make you pro-gun.
that incident was 2 hours after the event was over.
no reliable sources. i attempted to count a number of times how many people were in an area and multiply by the number of areas and came up with 50-80k but the number i heard several times was 120k. I can promise you it wasn't 20k. I believe the number of people inside the fence was limited to 6000 or 7000. there's no way even 1 in 10 people through security inside the fence.
VCDL did make that request. It will be interesting to see if they change their tune next time. It was clearly the wrong call and there wasn't anything about people carrying rifles that was embarrassing.
as was pointed out earlier, i don't think there's any justification for that assumption.
it accomplishes several things. keep in mind, the experience of seeing something like a concert or football game on TV vs actually being there is wildly different.
- it demonstrates to the politicians that we are armed
- it demonstrates we are safe, and that gathering was by far the most polite i have ever been too. i can't tell you how many times i heard excuse me, thank you, etc
- if you could see the disparity of force between the protesters and police in person, it would be obvious. this point was most assuredly not missed by the LEO and agents present. and it's important because it will encourage them not to forsake their oaths because there's no question which side would win
Love the tie dye and caution tape. Enough to keep freedom haters guessing.
Thanks for standing up for freedom today.
What you described is how a percentage of the gun community might view seeing people dressed up while OCing long guns...
I was there, my opinion still stands, I don't believe everyone who is outside the hard core gun community bubble sees things how you all imagine they do, it's not sending the message you all think it's sending them, it's not gaining support for our cause that you all seem to think it has, and we'll have to respectfully agree to disagree.
My fear is that even if we regain the majority in the legislature, we still will not take back the governor's office thus any gun control that is enacted within this short period of time will be around for a while.in virginia, more than a couple dozen house races were uncontested. there was no republican to even vote for on the ballot. the number i saw was only 40% of registered republicans even showed up to vote last november. this Rally (read the definition of the word for more insight) is going to accomplish a lot more by motivating gun owners to vote, than trying to convince fence sitters, who were already told we were nazis, white supremacists, racists, etc.
the event also provided clear evidence to fight those stereotypes of gun owners in several important ways. all those guys carrying loaded rifles were
-safe
-polite
-peaceable
-friendly with the cops
and just generally well behaved, to a man. (and woman, etc)
i hope the media publishes a picture of every single person at the rally. the more people see it, the more we will win.
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There's quite a few bikerdoc memes out there.i had that original far side on my office wall for a decade. it had a fat guy in bathrobe with shoe on his head holding a bazooka as i recall
The "constitutional militia" (for 2nd Amendment purposes) is essentially everybody. A self-selected subset is not "the militia." It's settled law that self-organized paramilitary groups can be outlawed. Whatever else we can say about those that showed up armed on Monday, they have no legal standing as representatives of anybody.I know that the term "militia" is a dirty word in many circles today, but in reality, the Militia showed up at Richmond this past Monday. Armed citizens, determined to maintain the security of the Republic.
VA is staggered, executive officers such as the governor are elected in two years (2021) for four year terms and the state Senate has a four year term until 2023 and House of Delegates in 2021 (2 yr terms).My fear is that even if we regain the majority in the legislature, we still will not take back the governor's office thus any gun control that is enacted within this short period of time will be around for a while.
There's quite a few bikerdoc memes out there.
I might have to start a thread LOL
Boy do I feel silly.dudes go look closely it is not me that is a mod from another forum, as you can see I'm thinner and better looking.
The "constitutional militia" (for 2nd Amendment purposes) is essentially everybody. A self-selected subset is not "the militia." It's settled law that self-organized paramilitary groups can be outlawed. Whatever else we can say about those that showed up armed on Monday, they have no legal standing as representatives of anybody.
The "constitutional militia" (for 2nd Amendment purposes) is essentially everybody. A self-selected subset is not "the militia." It's settled law that self-organized paramilitary groups can be outlawed. Whatever else we can say about those that showed up armed on Monday, they have no legal standing as representatives of anybody.