Vampires and zombies?

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aw yes. scientist's, the historical arch enemy of truth


il be leaving a bag of salt here. please everyone take a grain.




(zombies are real!!!!:what: )


added, his numbers are poorly thought out. they dotn take into consideration vampire hunters, and the vampire communitys ability to control its numbers so as to not out pace its food source.
 
I call BS:eek:

They are simply telling us that for the same reason I tell my kids there are no monsters in the closet. We all know the truth on that one;)
 
Theres too many mythologies of vampires to make a good theory on how to kill them. The classic Transylvanaian with the pendant or the Wesley Snipes half breed.
 
Yeah, but he is using the hypothetical "IF everyone a vampire bites becomes a vampire"... According to the Blade trilogy, that is false as vampires can choose who becomes a vampire and who they just off via a bite to the jugular. Math is no obstacle providing that vampires are smart enough to keep their numbers to a minimum to help preserve their kind... it's not rocket science here. It's not like everyone gets into the club as easy as this "scientist" claims :scrutiny:

Time to go check my weapons. This seems like a good time for them to strike since some of you people believe this propaganda.:barf:
 
mrelijahgardner said:
mrelijahgardner

Did anyone watch the Documenty on History Channel last night about real zombies

Yea, but it was not nearly as interesting as a radiation-soaked satellite or super contagious virus. Just a bunch of hoodoo headgames :p
 
BS.

Where did he come up with his first supposition? What if Vampires don't bite one person every month? I thought they could last a long time without!!

He also neglected the best caliber, which everyone knows is a .45 acp to the head.

(zombies are real!!!! )

+1
 
I still don't see what this has to do with zombies.

If a vampire bites a zombie do you get a zombie-vampire? What if the zombie bites the vampire? How yould you kill something like that? Stake to the heart with simultaneous gunshot to the head?

Does this mean I need a tactical stake mounted to my shotgun?
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Heck, we NEED vampires and zombies right now! Sic them on Al Quaida, for one thing. Give them Bin Laden's scent and let them hunt!
 
How to kill zombies? Shotgun to face?

Vampires? The usual siver bullet (+1 to the reloaders) stake to the heart maybe even garlic in the veins.

What if you decapitate a vampire. Would its head be on the ground growling at you and the body running like a chicken with its head cut off? pun 10 did.:neener:
 
Specious logic at best
And I fail to see how this eggheaded poindexter has disproved zombies which are a totally separate issue from vampires.
Such shallow research only gives science a bad name.
Obviously he's a student of the Bellesisles school of research:barf:
 
According to Van Helsing (in Bram Stoker's Dracula) a vampire doesn't always turn a victim unless he kills them, and he doesn't always kill them. The ones he kills are meant to be his brides-- Lucy and Mina would replace the harpies he left behind at Castle Dracula.

Love at First Bite said it took 3 bites. And I'm not gonna argue with George Hamilton.

So, if a vampire can live say, off a unit of blood a night (more or less) and has the power to mesmerize (it's those spooky eyes and chamber music) then they could be feeding, without changing anyone, unless they choose to, for eons.

Those scientists should crack a book once in a while. :neener:

The zombie show on the history channel was pretty amusing.

I'll stick to firearms with a machete back-up for killing zombies.

Silver bullets are for werewolves, a UV light can ruin a vampire's day, er night.

So let's review.

For zombies... hi-cap poodle shooter with varmint rounds and a machete.

For werewolves and vampires, turn your attention to an MEC shotshell loader and your trusty 12 ga shotgun. It's hard to cast silver bullets as silver shrinks from the mold, but silver pellets are a breeze. 00 is the size to shoot for, but if you err, err on the smaller size. You'll want a cylinder bore or Imp cyl. to ensure a better spread of pellets in hopes of hitting the heart on the first shot.

For vampires, use a high-brass hull and inside a plastic wad, load a sharpened hardwood dowel of aproximately 70 cal. harder woods weigh more, cocobolo and ebony are my faves, some purists prefer white oak, but they are probably using a double gun and making shells 5-6 inches long that actually look like stakes.

Upon further research, a duplex load of sharpened cocobolo 'needles' (ala flechette round) was buffered with consecrated wafers, but it's a very short range weapon.

Oh and Happy Halloween.
 
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To make this gun related....

There is a series of books (currently up to 14) by Laurell K. Hamilton about her character "Anita Blake, Vampire Hunter" that has loads of firearms and shootouts, almost to the level of Stephen Hunter. She gets feedback from Massad Ayoob to minimize her gun mistakes.

The really interesting thing the series is that the "undead" now have legal rights in the US. Vampires, werewolves, witches and the whole realm of monsters are now US citizens with rights. Werewolves and other "Were-" creatures are considered to have a disease similar to Aids and have protection against discrimination. Anita Blake is a zombie raiser by profession and works part-time with the police to hunt down rogue Vampires that have execution warrants against them. You can only kill a vampire with a court order. It is legal to raise the dead to talk to them. Lawyers can raise dead clients to consult about their wills. Cops can raise dead victims to get information. The US has turned into a really strange place. :) The Vampires have even created a church for people that want to "live" forever without having to chance judgement day.
 
In Angel or Buffy TVH, a vampire had to sire their victim to turn them. the vampire would bite their victim and drink their blood and the victim would have to do the same to the vampire. The victim would die and come back to "life" as a vampire.

If it was in anything Joss Whedon did it must be true.
 
According to most historians, the legends of vampires came about due to how people acted when they were in the final throes of a fatal case of rabies..and they'd often even have bite marks from the rabid animal that gave it to them.

So there you go. :)
 
What about Van Helsing? This scientist is just using a mathmatical progression, but he isn't thinking that 1.) there are blood banks now days 2.) they might have fed more and more on animals 3.) that certain driven lonely anti-hero types have been fighting vampires, thereby keeping their numbers down.

I wonder why a MATH professor didn't include variables.
 
Foolish scientist. Little does he realize...

“Others? So what else is out there?

She shrugged. “Lots of things, but I don’t want to get too far off of the subject. If you don’t agree to our offer then anything that I tell you can never be shared with the general public, or the government will arrange for you to have a chainsaw accident or something equally bad, and I’m not kidding about that one bit. They have a strict policy of keeping all of this secret. So before I tell you what else is out there, let me ask you if ...”

I cut her off. “Zombies? Are there really zombies?”

“Owen, please, I need to..”

“Yes, there are zombies. A whole bunch of different kinds. Slow ones, fast ones. Nasty bastards,” Harbinger said.

“Vampires?”

“Oh yeah. And let me tell you, they ain’t the nice charming debonair kind of thing you see on TV, those suckers are meaner than hell. Trust me on this one, in pop culture they make them all intellectual and sexy, there ain’t nothing sexy about getting your carotid artery ripped out. There’re actually a mess of different kinds of undead.”

Julie sighed as she gave up on her pitch. My B-movie geekiness had kicked in, and coupled with my natural curiosity I was going to find out what exactly was real. And Harbinger was more than willing to talk. He seemed to be enjoying himself, and also getting a kick out of Julie’s discomfort.

“Bigfoot, the Yeti?”

“Yep, but no bounties because they ain’t really a problem.”

“Chupacabras?”

“Goat suckers. They’ll tear you up if you ain’t careful.”

“Giant mutant animals?”

“Sure, but the Japanese have cornered that market.”

“Sea monsters?”

“Yes, but only bounties on the evil kind.”

“Wow, no kidding? Space aliens?”

“No intelligent little green men if that is what you are thinking of. If those are out there we haven’t ever dealt with them.”

“Ghosts?”

“We have a strict policy: we only hunt things that have physical bodies. No physical body, no contract, and no way to collect a bounty either. We stick with things that are flesh and blood, or at least bone, exoskeleton, or slime.”

We continued on like that for a few minutes, with me thinking of every creature from every horror movie I had ever seen, and Harbinger letting me know if it was real or not. Every answer he gave was in total seriousness. If he was making any of this crazy monster stuff up, I sure would hate to play a game of poker against him.

Finally after asking about the creature from the black lagoon and finding out that that was actually based on a true story, Julie had had enough and jumped in. She elbowed Harbinger in the ribs.

“Sorry guys, back to business."

-From Monster Hunter International by Larry Correia. Available in paperback around the end of 2006. Yes, somebody actually wrote a book inspired by zombie threads on the internet. :) YOU MUST OWN IT!
 
Hokay, gotta have more excerpts from that book. I'm already hooked.

Biker:)
 
Rabies nothing. Its porphyria that makes vampires. Their gums recede and they need blood to live, they have UV sensitivity and odd hair growth. They also go kind of crazy. Now I've seen Bram Stoker's Dracula, and if this isn't vampirism, I don't know what is. These are the people we need to hunt down. You go ahead, I'll catch up.

Also, if you haven't seen the X-Files with the trailer park vampires- rent, borrow, beg or steal it.
 
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