One last thought for the week
As I said in prior post, I'm going to stay away from this discussion for 1 week to let the rest of you hash out a test plan that we can all accept and that I can afford to do, if that's possible.
Anyone else, please do whatever tests you want.
I suspect that no concensus will be reached on acceptable tests that I can possibly afford the time or money for. I hope a concensus can be reached, but I doubt it.
That said, I'm going to close my comments for now with the following:
Until someone tests the premise, I'm going to stick with my theory that velocity affects accuracy at handgun velocities and distances (15, 25, and 50 yds).
All target handguns and ammo that I know of are subsonics. That must be for a good reason. I'm defining a handgun as anything with a 6" barrel or less. Once you get beyond 6" it's not carryable. In fact, once you get beyond 4" it's not practical to carry.
Thompson Center Fire "handguns" are hand held rifles shooting rifle ammo, so they don't count.
Any true handguns that are target guns are subsonic shooting subsonic ammo. At least as far as I'm aware of. The preference for subsonic target handguns and target ammo for use at 50 yds, 25 yds, and 15 yds for target shooting strongly suggests I'm correct in my accuracy theory (at handgun distances).
Has anyone ever heard of transsonic target ammo for a target handgun? No. There aren't any made as far as I know. That's for a good reason I'm sure.
Also, there are few, if any, supersonic target handguns and ammo for a good reason.
I rest my case on that until this matter is tested.
Also, I'd like to remind everyone about the handgun ammo manufacturer who told me it doesn't matter: He specifically said, "It doesn't matter at 10 yards and closer, which are the self defense distances". Those were his exact words as close as memory serves. His words imply it might matter beyond 10 yards. Read between the lines.
Lastly, my personal experiences at 50 yards and 25 yards with .22 LR and handguns tell me it matters.
That's all I have to say on the subject until we can agree on tests, if we can agree.
I'm staying away for one week so anyone interested can discuss possible test procedures.
Thanks
As I said in prior post, I'm going to stay away from this discussion for 1 week to let the rest of you hash out a test plan that we can all accept and that I can afford to do, if that's possible.
Anyone else, please do whatever tests you want.
I suspect that no concensus will be reached on acceptable tests that I can possibly afford the time or money for. I hope a concensus can be reached, but I doubt it.
That said, I'm going to close my comments for now with the following:
Until someone tests the premise, I'm going to stick with my theory that velocity affects accuracy at handgun velocities and distances (15, 25, and 50 yds).
All target handguns and ammo that I know of are subsonics. That must be for a good reason. I'm defining a handgun as anything with a 6" barrel or less. Once you get beyond 6" it's not carryable. In fact, once you get beyond 4" it's not practical to carry.
Thompson Center Fire "handguns" are hand held rifles shooting rifle ammo, so they don't count.
Any true handguns that are target guns are subsonic shooting subsonic ammo. At least as far as I'm aware of. The preference for subsonic target handguns and target ammo for use at 50 yds, 25 yds, and 15 yds for target shooting strongly suggests I'm correct in my accuracy theory (at handgun distances).
Has anyone ever heard of transsonic target ammo for a target handgun? No. There aren't any made as far as I know. That's for a good reason I'm sure.
Also, there are few, if any, supersonic target handguns and ammo for a good reason.
I rest my case on that until this matter is tested.
Also, I'd like to remind everyone about the handgun ammo manufacturer who told me it doesn't matter: He specifically said, "It doesn't matter at 10 yards and closer, which are the self defense distances". Those were his exact words as close as memory serves. His words imply it might matter beyond 10 yards. Read between the lines.
Lastly, my personal experiences at 50 yards and 25 yards with .22 LR and handguns tell me it matters.
That's all I have to say on the subject until we can agree on tests, if we can agree.
I'm staying away for one week so anyone interested can discuss possible test procedures.
Thanks