"Veterans, Who Do They Think They Are?"

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NavajoNPaleFace--Thank you for your service. A former Platoon Sergeant of mine (best damn female platoon sergeant in the MP Corps) gave her life for one of her soldiers in Korea a few years ago. I still get choked up over it about once a year. She is one of the many reasons why I'm going to stick it out for the full 20 (or more). Thank YOU for your service!

Assist, Protect, Defend
 
To every single person who served our nation, both here on this thread, and from times long past...

Thank you.
 
My son thought it ironic that there was a day for me to celebrate myself...

Raising one for all you brother and sister vets out there.
 
VETS

Everytime i go to the wall i get goose bumps and cry! Spent 2yrs there so i know what our service men and women are going thru and I salute them and all vets. Its funny how you read the paper with all the sales the stores are having and not one will mention a special discount for VETS! Said my peace, God Bless All Our Troops and VETS! jerryd
 
jerryd

Home Depot (here) had 10% discount, thru today, all week.

Furniture galore offering 15%. WOW! On a normal markup of 150+%. Really great, huh?

Oh well. What's new?

Now, if I could only find some Win Q3131A I'd pass on the discount.

-Andy
 
I've been trying to tell this story right for a long time.

It's still too long and clumsy, but the point is valid.

THE SOUND OF ROTOR BLADES

Every guy needs a good workbench, preferably in the basement or garage. When I was stationed at Camp Lejeune, the climate made a garage setup practical. I could work on my projects with the big doors open, thereby keeping one eye or ear on my kids at the same time.

Every so often we'd hear the thudding whop-whop of approaching helicopter blades, as the Marines flew their CH -46 or their big Sea Stallion birds over. The children would always run outside for a look, especially since sometimes the big choppers would come over quite low , and the crew would wave the to them. After I met the Sergeant Major, I thought of him and David every time that happened.

The Navy has always been short on physicians. The active duty, dependent, and retired population at Camp Lejeune would normally require 15 or more primary care internists, and we had five. Since our primary mission was care of the active duty Marines and sailors, and next in line were the active duty dependents, retirees often got the short end of the stick. Whenever our backlog became too severe, the clinic would be declared closed to retirees. Of course, the person who made that decision was never the young medical officer who had to see the faces of the veterans of Okinawa, Tarawa, and Khe Sanh as he turned them away. Like my brother physicians, I would squeeze them in wherever I could until someone complained of congestion in the clinic and I would be called on the carpet.

The Sergeant Major was one of these retirees. A Marine helicopter crew chief, he served in Vietnam and also with HMX-1, flying the President. That gleaming helicopter bringing the President to the White House from Camp David -- that was the Sergeant Major's bird. He came to the emergency room with what turned out to be a minor problem, and I was called to authorize his referral to a civilian facility. Not having the heart to turn away another veteran, I told the emergency room physician to have him come by the clinic in the morning.

Have you ever been surprised by the fruit of what you thought was a very small kindness?

The Sergeant Major's problem was disposed of in a very few minutes, but while he was at the clinic he took the time to ask a few questions about the doc. Finding out that I liked to fish, he told me to come out to his farm anytime and fish his pond. This I of course did, finding wonderful fishing for large and gullible bass. The wonderful fruit of my small kindness was that he persuaded me to try fly fishing, beginning a passion which has stayed with me through the years…. but that's another story.

Michael R. Bowen M.D. continued on page 2



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I began to bring my children, and before long the Sergeant Major had forsaken his fishing rod to spend the time with my children while I fished. I'd walk up to the house as dusk approached to find him sitting , chuckling, in a lawn chair watching them playing. But the toys they were playing with were the toys of my own childhood: Davey Crockett coonskin caps, Gunsmoke gun and holster sets, gyroscopes, hula hoops in mint condition, a strange blast from the past.

"Some pretty old toys," the Sergeant Major said. " Looks like you remember ‘em.†Yes, I said, I sure did, and I asked about his kids.

He'd had two sons; the eldest was a lawyer of some sort, and very different from his father. He never came to share his dad's love of fishing and hunting, and seems to have grown farther away from him in adulthood. He lived not too far away, in the same state, but they rarely saw him.

But David was dad's best buddy. He wanted nothing more than to be where dad was, doing what dad did. His father told of a fishing trip to which turned into a grim test of endurance, anchored in a rowboat in the middle of a lake as wind and sleet drilled through their ponchos. David's lips were turning blue, but he smiled up at his father and said, through chattering teeth, "Fun, huh Dad?" -- and meant it. It was David's toys my children played with.

Naturally, David joined the Marines. As luck would have it, Father and son were sent to Vietnam at the same time. The Sergeant Major had a fairly safe billet in Saigon, but David was a grunt in a rifle platoon. This, I thought, would be about the time the Sergeant Major's wife's hair turned white.

Anyway, one day David got liberty and hitchhiked to Saigon to see his dad. The Sergeant Major got him a hot shower, a hot meal, and a night in a real bed with clean sheets. Next morning he took him to see the chaplain. When it was time to leave, the chaplain said, "David, do you like to drink beer?" "No, sir," David answered. "but the guys in my platoon do." So the chaplain gave him a case of Schlitz to take back to his firebase. The Sergeant Major made David exchange his battered flak jacket for his own, which was practically new. Then he took him over to Highway 1 to hitch a ride back to his unit. "I left him standing at the side of the road, wearing my new flak jacket, the case of beer on his shoulder."

"It was 1968. I never saw him again."

Michael R. Bowen M.D. continued on page 3



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Years later, on temporary duty in Washington, I went with a friend to visit the Wall. We looked up David's name in the directory, and found it in the polished black stone. Dressed in our summer white uniforms, we stood before the name as I told David's story. When I finished we turned to find that a small crowd had gathered, listening silently and sneaking photographs. Somewhere in somebody's album there is that picture of us, and David's story will be retold whenever the album is taken out. Which is as it should be.

So when the thudding of rotor blades brings my children outside to see, I think how blessed America has been to have men like David and the Sergeant Major. In so very many other countries, that sound still sends children running in terror. I can't repay those men for what they gave us, but I can remember them when I hear that sound. It's the Sound of Freedom.



Michael R. Bowen M.D.
 
From Steve Russell:

There are one or two folks in there that are saying that the holiday should be only for vets or the sales should be only for vets. I think they are missing the point. We are vets so we can all be free. We don't ask for special consideration, just remembrance. That is enough and all we ask.

To the Horse, 1st Cavalry, 1969

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And thanks from me, with this:

If you can read this sticker, thank a teacher.

If you can read it in English, thank a vet.


Mike, who enlisted before he was a citizen--USAF 1985-1990, USArmy 1990-1995, Air Guard, 1995-

With the rank and the pay of a sapper.
 
Grampster, Al .. thx for the inf on ''Reflections'' . oh yes ... it was the one I thought, but hey ...... had not seen it in some while and when I did ... well, what can I say .... it speaks - VOLUMES. An example ''par excellance'' of how a picture can speak a 1,000 words.

I feel guilty, because I cannot say that I have served ..... and it seems therefore almost deceitful to express my own support and feelings.

However, I know many ....... way too many ..... who have served, been injured - and died, in the many conflicts from and including WWII ... and I identify ..... strongly. Maybe most of all I am possessive of a vivid imagination - and a natural empathy toward those who gave so much. I have mentally been there with them.

I only have to think of all the Wives, Mothers, Fathers, Brothers and Sisters and kids ..... who's lives have been irreversibly changed, as a result of sacrifices by others in their families ...... it takes little imagination indeed to consider the effects of losing my own son or daughter.

So - this day and its meaning is in a way, no less significant for me ... than if I had served. I still salute them all, and always will, and will continue to be deeply upset when others treat vet's with disdain and indifference.
 
Thanks to all Vets.

I was going to join the Marines like my daddy, but chose not to. I almost wish I would have, but I wouldn't be who I am now.

Instead of being a veteran I am going to be a knowlegable citizen who will wisely use my rights, provided by our soldiers, to let others know what they do for us. Also doing my part to protect those here from local threats, while training the next generation to do their part to support our troops and be a good citizen grateful to them for our rights, our way of life, and our lives.
 
Khornet, very powerful story. Thanks for sharing it.

I don't have a problem with stores having a Veteran's Day sale in and of itself. My problem is when they advertise it using red and green colors, with the obvious intent of making it another 'better hurry up, Christmas is only 6 weeks away' sale. If they would actually attempt to make it a little less Christmas-sale minded, I wouldn't be so peeved.

There is one garage down the street from me that offered free oil changes for vets last year. I don't know if they're doing it again this year. If they are, I think I'll stop in and say thanks. I don't really need my oil changed yet, but they should know that someone appreciates their gratefulness and generosity.

Frank
 
Ghost In The Machine

"As I was going up the stair,
I saw a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today,
I wish, I wish he'd go away."

That pretty well describes my own military service 1961-64. Nothing glamorous- I was just an anonymous oxymoron who got the vacation of a life time at one of Unca Sammy's Japanese resorts. And yes, I was one of the lucky ones. But I still think military service should be like polio vaccine -- something EVERYONE does once in his life.

Lynn Circle
 

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Not many posts bring tears to my eyes.

It is the highest accolade I can offer.

Thanks, veterans.

In gratitude for what you have preserved, our best tribute is to practice everything that makes America great, every single day.
 
Got an e mail from a friend who has active military friends in Iraq and Kuwait. His e mail to me was a forward of another e mail sent to one of those friends in Iraq from another friend who witnessed the following: Here is an abreviated version.
While stacked up in Baltimore at the airport due to the Kali fires a couple weeks ago, the crowd was understandably cranky. Planes were delayed and cancelled. A group of young military folk in desert camo's were also sitting around. Suddenly the announcement came that flight to Denver was seriously overbooked and would anyone like to take a bump. Naturaly, under the circumstances, there were no volunteers. The announcement was repeated, this time explaining that the airline had purposely overbooked the flight so that ALL of the soldiers who were sitting around could get home together quickly as they only had 14 days out of Iraq and they were on that flight. Suddenly everybody on the flight came forward and voluntarily gave up their seats so that the young warriors could get home without any more delay.

God Bless America and may the sacrifice made by the few for the many continue to be appreciated like the example of this story, for all time.

grampster

PS: How do you get tears off the keyboard?
 
Where would this country be if were not for the Vets ? Better question is, would this be the USA without the vets? Especially those who are rarely mentioned any anymore, the Revolutionary War Vets. My hat is off to all of the vets who served, all the way back to the beginning of our proclamation of freedom. I salutesya guys and gals..needless to say I am one more proud American, not just on Veterans Day but every day, Lordy dont get me started on how Blessed we are to live in this country...
 
Just wanted to take an opportunity to say thanks to all the Veterans.

Who do they think they are?

They are the ones who have and do make it possible for us to take everything in everyday life for granted.

They are the ones who make it possible for us to sleep in our warm beds at night while they shiver in a mud hole in some foreign land that many people couldn't find on a map.

Thanks again to all who serve and have served.
 
I know Veteran's Day is supposed to be for the Veterans, but I would like to extend my appreciation to the parents, wives, children and friends of the veterans who may not have seen the bad things for themselves, but have provided the love and support we needed when we came back.

They did not demand an explanation of why we were so changed, and have tried mightily to understand what we did. They have the burden to see hell through our eyes, and to watch over us in times of fitful sleep. They may not understand why we see the world the way we do, but they comfort us and give pleasure in ways we cannot always describe.

My wife protested my war, but never the men and women who fought it. She saw the government as spineless, prefering to put Americans in mortal danger without the will to take it to the enemy as it should have been.

I buried her in the National Cemetary in Dallas this past March, where she lies next to a WWII lieutenant who served with the 8th AF on one side, and a Korean War Marine on the other. She did more than anyone to help me assimilate back into the real world, and prayed for me often (mostly looking skyward and saying, "God-he really didn't mean that:) ).

We veterans fought literally tooth and nail for each other, but they fight to keep us sane, and are a very important reason that we serve, if not the most important one of all.

Many thanks for the shoulder and the helping hand.
 
Folks, I've just finished copying all of your responses and will send them to Laurel right after this. I thought you might all be interestd in what she thinks, so here are two of her most recent emails:

Thank you for keeping me posted.

I printed out the responses and I am going to put them in a binder. If you get any more, please let me know.

Today I did a radio interview and then read "They Are Our Soldiers" at the cemetery. I didn't pass out!!!!

A lady came up to me afterwards and was just sobbing. She told me that she knew I read from the heart and that I was living what I wrote.

Tonight another guy at the American Legion crabfeed, told me that he thinks I should read more often because it is from the heart.

He gave me a great compliment. He said I don't know how you know the heart of the Veteran but a statement in what you wrote hit home. He told me that he had never been able to talk to his family about his being shot down and all that he had gone through. But the statement in TAUS that says, "They have responsibilities that we could never imagine and that creates places within them where we are not welcome. Places that only the soldier, one arms length away, would understand." To be told by a Vet that I knew his heart, well, we got a bit emotional.

Oh, after the ceremony at the cemetery, the news guy came up and asked for a copy. I gave him the one I had read from and he told me, "This is a different one then we published in todays paper." I asked him what he had said and he repeated it. I didn't know "Veterans Who Do They Think They Are?" was going to be in tonight's paper! Well, I suppose I will hear from the kids family as soon as they read it cuz they will without a doubt know who they are!

Pray for me cuz that whole family is BIG and I mean BIG! Big and stupid...hmmmm! :)

God Bless!
Laurel

The next email is the result of her asking me what my email tagline means.

the tag is:
"Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes"
MOLON LABE!

After defining the terms, I wrote a rather lenghty responses as to why I use it. I was a little hesitant, as I never have asked her where she stands on the 2A, and I hoped I wouldn't lose her friendship. I needn't have worried:

This may surprise you but I am in full agreement with all you said. The ACLU and the "politically correct" have caused the world to tip at a very bad angle.

I too am in favor of protecting our families and I read articles regarding the victims of burglaries being sued by the very ones who invaded their homes! grrrrrr!!!!!!

Thank you all for responding.
 
I was brought up in a patriotic family with both grandfathers serving in the military and in WWII. They never talked much about it, and as a little kid, I never understood why. As I have gotten older, I have begun to realize what they went through, although I will NEVER fully comprehend it, nor would I want to.

Because of what they taught me, I consider myself very patriotic and am so grateful for the sacrifices of the men and women who keep us free. As a country, we may feel that such service is not necessary as things seem to be "in control" for us, but without these dedicated and brave souls, we would not have what we have, nor would we continue to have it.

I know I am a day late responding to this thread, but let me say a HUGE thank you to the men and women of our armed forces, past, present and future. Your undertakings are some of the noblest jobs. You job is to allow me the freedom to choose for myself how my life should play out. Without that choice, none of us could live up to the God given talents that we have, and that truly would be a shame.

As for the lady and her son, I can only say that I feel much sorrow for them. To not understand how we got to be where we are, is to not truly understand WHO we are. And none of that could be done without the our armed forces.

Hopefully that wrong will someday be rectified, and more importantly, I hope that it doesn't continue in other families.

May the Lord smile on all those serving to protect their countries through honest and dedicated efforts. And may He push back tyranny such that those protecting us are not required to be in harms way on a regular basis.
 
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