JustinJ
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I'm struggling to think up a better waste of my time than to vote in something like this. What do ya'll hope to accomplish? Is it not obvious that these "polls" prove nothing and have no impact?
Vote in this poll about banning 'assault weapons'
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wacki
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I disagree. And so would the (in)famous Joseph Goebbles propaganda machine.
JustinJ
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I don't even know what to say to that.
David E
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I think you just succeeded by making this post. It took longer to do than voting in the poll
statelineblues
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Yes - 10% (186 votes)
No - 90% (1693 votes)
No - 90% (1693 votes)
JustinJ
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Maybe, but if i can help just three people realize its a waste of time then maybe it was worth while.
Seriously though, these polls are silly. The point of a poll is to sample a population large enough to be statistically significant. If the sampling is not random, as this thread proves it isn't, the "data" gained is completely false and useless.
tryshoot
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I voted, 90% no still
And you believe that the majority of the population who see these polls, and the results, think this way and immediately dismiss the results as completely insignificant?
wacki
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JustinJ said:
Just read up on your history. Given the right stimulus, people can be amazingly pliable and astoundingly unobservant as to what is manipulating them. Goebbles was a mastermind at manipulating public opinion. For better or worse his tactics work.
Political machines on both sides use these tactics.
The only thing that baffles me is the number of people on this forum that spend more time fighting our allies than freedom's foes.
JustinJ
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So if i see our side misleading or just plain lying i should just shut up and grin? I personally don't like the idea of selling out my integrity for any cause.
If people are stupid enough to believe these polls are accurate then so be it but i won't participate in misleading others.
strykerfire
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Ban them. Go ahead. Them come and take them!
hermannr
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for all of the detractors at taking these polls...you do not think the anti's cannot get their people to stack the poll? You better believe they can, and try too.
What these polls actually show is the gun community has more supporters, and has better communication than the anti's.
A few days ago someone on another gun forum said a local TV station conducted a similar poll (and called him on the phone)...but using the telephone instead of posting it on their web site. I would be of the opinion that the idea at that TV station was if they conducted a "scientific" telephone poll they would get the results they were looking for...
Well, you cannot find the results of that telephone poll on that TV station's web site, nothing about that poll was ever broadcast...guess what? I'll bet they did NOT get the results they were looking for. Ya think?
What these polls actually show is the gun community has more supporters, and has better communication than the anti's.
A few days ago someone on another gun forum said a local TV station conducted a similar poll (and called him on the phone)...but using the telephone instead of posting it on their web site. I would be of the opinion that the idea at that TV station was if they conducted a "scientific" telephone poll they would get the results they were looking for...
Well, you cannot find the results of that telephone poll on that TV station's web site, nothing about that poll was ever broadcast...guess what? I'll bet they did NOT get the results they were looking for. Ya think?
Just One Shot
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Yes - 194
No - 1845
No - 1845
MagnumDweeb
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We are in a battle of ideals. I voted when the poll first posted and I vote on every poll because it's the smart thing to do. So many people are little more than lemmings. They go with the popular direction of things. Show them the popular direction and they follow it hook line and sinker. Stacking votes on a poll pulls in these lemming people and gets them to think Pro-RBKA. Are these victories small or only even token, perhaps but it's about winning the battle person by person. And so far we are winning. Slowly and painstakingly but we are winning.
Twenty years ago gun owners couldn't imagine that RBKA would have the support or customer base it has today. And in twenty years we'll think back on this time and wonder what we were worried about. Not because the threat wasn't real, but because there were so many people growing into the "Gun Age" behind us that our victory was absolute.
The Internet in its own way has helped the RBKA cause by allowing us to share in ideas and organize in ways and means that weren't really possible Pre-94'. The Internet is the Anti-Media and it's the Anti-Media that's winning the cause for RBKA. There are more shooting magazines today than there ever were, there are more gun companies today than there ever were. So I'll cast my Poll votes no matter. Because it's one more drop of victory juice in the ocean that is this battle.
Will the 1986 Machine Gun Registry Ban ever be overturned? Probably not, but will the right to Conceal Carry grow, probably yes. And so we lost the right to build more machine guns, but then some Americans with know-how created the slide stock and made it easier to indulge in rapid firing guns without the NFA pain in the neck. Give it time, someone will figure out how to make pistols nearly full-auto.
So keep the poll voting guys.
Twenty years ago gun owners couldn't imagine that RBKA would have the support or customer base it has today. And in twenty years we'll think back on this time and wonder what we were worried about. Not because the threat wasn't real, but because there were so many people growing into the "Gun Age" behind us that our victory was absolute.
The Internet in its own way has helped the RBKA cause by allowing us to share in ideas and organize in ways and means that weren't really possible Pre-94'. The Internet is the Anti-Media and it's the Anti-Media that's winning the cause for RBKA. There are more shooting magazines today than there ever were, there are more gun companies today than there ever were. So I'll cast my Poll votes no matter. Because it's one more drop of victory juice in the ocean that is this battle.
Will the 1986 Machine Gun Registry Ban ever be overturned? Probably not, but will the right to Conceal Carry grow, probably yes. And so we lost the right to build more machine guns, but then some Americans with know-how created the slide stock and made it easier to indulge in rapid firing guns without the NFA pain in the neck. Give it time, someone will figure out how to make pistols nearly full-auto.
So keep the poll voting guys.
JustinJ
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What evidence do you have that they do this silly practice?
How many "anti" gun forums are there to recruit voters on? Maybe the antis simply realize how pointless and silly it is to try and load an internet poll.
I'm supposed to accept this is a reliable piece of information? "A few days ago someone on another gun forum said"
How long has it been? Maybe they did not receive enough responses to get accurate data? Does this "someone on a another forum who said" watch each broadcast of this news station?
medalguy
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It's only natural for like-minded people to try to get other like-minded people to agree with them on polls.
What evidence do you have that they do this silly practice?
What evidence do you have they don't do this?
What evidence do you have that they do this silly practice?
What evidence do you have they don't do this?
lloveless
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Voted no of course. 1900 (90%) against ban. 201 (10%) for the ban.
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JustinJ
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None. But rational people don't believe things to be true for which there is no evidence until proven otherwise. Or do you believe in Unicorns and fairies too?
mortablunt
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Voted again. We are winning by 91%-9%. Anyway, voting in this is important because it does stop the news about polls proving that the public is antigun from showing up on TV.
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