VZ58 at AIM

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I don't care who assembles them, I want to know which batch of hillbillies machined the magwells here in the US.
 
I hope they are a lot better than your average SKS or AK, given their significantly higher price. I am not sure I see a lot of value at their $800 price point.
 
I don't care who assembles them, I want to know which batch of hillbillies machined the magwells here in the US.
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Me too. I figure it was either century or CZ USA. There are others, but thats what I figure the AIM ones could be.
 
Going by the price, sounds like they're from CZ, rather than OOW, whose price for their rifles is quite a bit higher.

I don't care who assembles them, I want to know which batch of hillbillies machined the magwells here in the US.
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Are they Century WASR-style low-cap-to-high-cap dremel tool conversions? That doesn't sound very promising, though it does explain how the rifles can be built on Czech-manufactured receivers, which was a question when I read their description on AIM's website.
 
They are the Cz-USA imports.

HorseSoldier, low-cap rifles are the only way into the country nowadays for many models...

I purchased one of these Vz58s from Centerfire and it is beautiful. No drunken monkey work here.
 
Milled, not stamped -- a lot more rifle. Dunno about accessories like optics, but if enough of them come in someone will create aftermarket stuff for them.
 
These rifles are top notch, high quality in every regard. They are not AK's, and not one single part interchanges with an AK, including magazines. I will have one in a month, assuming they don't sell out. Milled recievers, yet they weigh less than stamped AK's. Chromed barrels, bolt locks after last shot, and Century has nothing to do with these.
 
I handled one at the Saxet gun show this weekend. They're solid guns. The mags (factory hi-cap originals) are aluminum and much lighter than AK mags. When the bolt retracts, it reveals a HUGE 180* ejection port. It's a nice gun.
 
nalioth, maybe you can give a report? I've read (but can't find it now) that the folding stocks on these are less stable than the comparable AK wirefolders.

jm
 
The folding stocks open and close quite smoothly and lock solid. They are more beefy than an AK wire stock, but not as 'user friendly' as the current Russian/Bulgarian triangle folders.

The Vz58 buttstocks are easily changed in under 5 minutes (or less) with just a large screwdriver.

Fixed buttstock disassembled.
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Folding buttstock disassembled.
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One HUGE screw holds both the stocks in place, and they index in a slot in the receiver.
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I picked up , but not bought, one of these babies, at a gunshow here in Houston. needless to say, I was highly impressed, a ver solid , stable looking gun, with a monster ejection port, and it def was in the open bolt postiion. I noticed the mags were different, but didn't give them much of an afterthought.
But I hope the extras are available, as the rifle , I think it was about 900 bucks!!!
 
I've read (but can't find it now) that the folding stocks on these are less stable than the comparable AK wirefolders.
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That may have been one of a couple posts from me about vz.58s. The .mil 58 I've done fam fire training with did not have very solid folding stocks at all, with a lot of side to side wiggle/slop. I can believe that the situation may be specific to that weapon or older/worn 58s in general, however, as it dated from 1973. I will say that the folding stock was the only part on the weapon that was worn to the point where it had any effect on operation -- thing ran perfectly with both brass cased Yugo M67 ammo and steel cased Russian stuff.

Dunno about accessories like optics, but if enough of them come in someone will create aftermarket stuff for them.
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I think the Czechoslovaks made a version equipped with the Soviet/Warsaw Pact standard side mount for night vision. I'm not sure how much pain would be involved in retrofitting the same bracket onto one of the commercially offered VZ's, but I'm sure it could be done. That would open up the range of Russian optics or the top rail adaptor for US sights.
 
Atlantic Firearms said:
if you have a collection and want a high quality AK type rifle these are perfect
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Since they're nothing like an AK (and I understand, the mag curvature confuses people), they are perfect for starting a collection of Czech firearms :D


To recap:

Nothing interchanges between the Vz58 and the AK except the cartridge it uses.

The operating designs are totally different.

The Vz58 is striker fired, the AK uses a hammer directly to the firing pin.

The Vz58 uses two recoil spring guides, the AK uses one.

If using the same cartridge as an AK makes them an "AK type rifle", then a Mack truck must be a "Toyota HiLux type of truck" because they both can run on diesel.
 
A friend and I had a chance to examine one at a gun show this past Saurday. I do not think it was through AIM but cannot be sure. The one examine had the fixed phenolic stock (which I have to say that although not pretty, is so unusual to me that I liked it - looked like partical board with more phenolic resin than wood). This particular sample was very well built and seemed nearly perfect until the seller started trying to dis- and re-assemble it. (Proceeded to scrape up the newly painted bolt which made me cringe.) The receiver was milled by Ohio Ordnance but the seller said he was ramping up to mill his own. (Younger guy, former Marine is looked like.) Seemed quite solid. locks up similarly to a Beretta/Taurus 92 with two lugs going into recesses on the sides of the bolt (except the lugs are attached to the bolt unstead of the barrel like a 92). I've only seen them in movies but the design is so different I think it'll make it to my list.

(Don't know who is making the receivers for the guns AIM is selling.)
 
The one examine had the fixed phenolic stock (which I have to say that although not pretty, is so unusual to me that I liked it - looked like partical board with more phenolic resin than wood).
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That's the original pattern furniture they were using up until sometime around the end of the Cold War (I think). The newer furniture is flat black plastic.
 
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