Waco (Texas) Tribune-Herald: Register All Guns

[confinedbythecurtain]

No offense taken at all Joab, Californias laws and policy are so high and mighty.... Its getting very difficult to live here.

 

[SAG0282]

Gonna have to do better than that...

*horrified look*

Amanda Bynes=brainless twit?

Nein!!!! How can such vile blasphemy escape thy lips?!?!??!

 

[Daniel964]

I think you may have just killed a man

joab
Senior Member

Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Ocoee
Posts: 1024
I e-mailed him, for what it's worth.
The argument is borrowed from an editorial in G&A

I just read your article entitled "From muskets to missiles"
And I have to applaud your understanding of the AWB for what it was, and not a machine gun ban as so many others proclaim. However one comment in particular that struck a chord in me as I was reading was your proposal to treat guns the same as cars.Personally I think this could be a good way to address the gun and gun law situation.

For instance, my drivers license allows me to drive a passenger vehicle anywhere in the country with only minor differences in traffic laws. A more advanced license can be obtained by taking a simple test allowing me to upgrade the type of vehicle i wish to drive.
I assume the gun license you propose will allow similar considerations in regards to guns.

I can buy and own as many cars as I would like and drive as much as I like with no age restrictions or registration as long as I only drive while on my own land. The gun registration applies the same, yes?

Will the gun license and registration fees go towards public firearm education and public ranges the way automobile fees go toward maintaining public roadways and drivers awareness programs

I will also assume that just as there is no restrictions on the fuel and passenger capacity or the acessories I add to my vehicle are not restricted, unless they make the car unfit for the job which it was designed to do, that the magazine capacity and cosmetic features would no longer be of issue

All in all I like it maybe you could throw your support towards the National Concealed Carry movement that is going on today.



I think he may have just had a Stroke or Heart Attack

 

[Derby FALs]

"You know, driving is a luxury, where firearms ownership is a right secured by the Constitution. But let's put that aside for a moment. It's interesting you compared guns and vehicles. Here in the U.S. you can AT ANY AGE go into any state and buy as many motorcycles, cars, or trucks of any size as you want, and you don't need to do anything if you don't use them on public property. If you DO want to use them on public property, you can get a license at age 16. This license is good in all 50 states. NO waiting periods, no background checks, nothing. If we treated guns like cars, a fourteen-year-old could go into any state and legally buy handguns, machine guns, cannons, whatever, cash and carry, and shoot them all with complete legality on private property. And at age 16 he could get a state license good anywhere in the country to shoot these guns on public property." ___John Ross

 

[ReadyontheRight]

The nation's founders thought in terms of citizen soldiers. To them, the term "arms" meant muzzle-loading guns, swords, knives, pistols and cannon.

I wonder if this genius thinks that being attacked by a muzzle loading gun, sword, knife, pistol or cannon is somehow less lethal than a Mini-14.

 

[dustind]

There where a few exotic automatic and semi auto weapons back in their day. They had revolvers with two layers of cartridges that held about 20 shots. Our founding fathers also used cannons as lawn ornaments, and ships where expected to have cannons to fight off pirates.

 

[LAK]

'Arms' have come a long way since the Founding Fathers

And human nature has not - and is not - going to change. It was not the size nor number of holes an "arm" could or could not make that was the underpinning of their ideology on this issue.

 

[joab]

Derby FALs
That's the article,I think, that I stole my argument from

 

[Sam Adams]

"I'm a felon 9 times over, so I no longer own any guns. However, Mrs. Liddy has a fine collection of firearms, some of which are on my side of the bed." --G. Gordon Liddy

I'd be willing to bet that G. Gordo has a slew of pre-1899 arms. Pursuant to the '68 GCA, these are "non-guns" that are virtually unregulated. One need only show or send the owner a copy of your license to prove that you are an adult. Most states follow the same rules. Oh, and Liddy is more than a little knowledgable when it comes to the law and self-protection.

 

[Sam Adams]

If guns were like cars: http://www.mcsm.org/guncars.html

 

[niemand]

"G. Gorden" is apparantly of legal issue; Constructive Possession unaware.

Essence of; Should One be "Legally Barred" (I would assert One may not be) Simply to Sporting Counter in "Walmart" go is federal violation.

How? As Clerk has to Arms/Munitions access, and "Would be reasonable" to hand such to One should One enquire, One is now of "Constructive Possession" guilty. Not that One DID so enquire, but that One COULD so enquire.

Works in same manner "Drugs in Auto" or "Living-Room". "Belongs to Everyone".

 

[artherd]

The automobile comparison misses one crucial point. Namely, that cars are NOT an absolutely essential tool for secureing all freedoms eneumerated as inalienable by our constitution, wheras arms ARE!

Withought an armed civilization to back it up, the constitution, bill of rights, the revolution, our current government, etc. all means absolutely nothing.

An armed civilization is literally the only thing keeping us from standing in a pile of dust and bodies of our homes and fellow man.

 

[artherd]

Lastly, a Cannon was the WMD of the time, capable of killing a (relatively, the world was a smaller place then) huge number of people.

There were also powder kegs stacked attop each other filling rooms, the equivlent of "should my neighbor be allowed to own a 500lb bomb?" I say sure, if he can afford the $50k pricetag.

This ethical question has already been answered. Weigh a few tens of accidental deaths per year, to ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY MILLION PEOPLE murdered during peacetime by their own legitimate governments post fireamrs-confiscation, since 1900!

 

[thatguy]

When the Bill of Rights was written TV and radio didn't exist any more than did "assault weapons" yet the 1st Amendment still applies to these media.

I agree, this writer is a dolt.

 

[jefnvk]

To them, the term "arms" meant muzzle-loading guns, swords, knives, pistols and cannon

Cool. According to this person, I can buy cannons?

I still say lets register all journalists. We can even have different levels of registration, so a sports writer can't write about fall fashions. If you write or publically speak of a topic outside your licensing, you lose all rights, go straight to prison and never get to write again.

 

[RobW]

The lack of logic and even minimal knowledge of the topic the so-called "Journalists" are writing about always puzzles me.

Looks like the blind is leading the blind.

 

[sawhitt]

From Kalifornistan or New Jerzistan I'd expect this. But TEXAS? Say it ain't so.

 

[Standing Wolf]

We should register all guns, old and new, and license the owners. No exceptions. No loopholes. Then we should crack down hard on gun crimes.

Maybe we should try cracking down on criminals instead, although it would cost representatives of the Democratic (sic) party a few million votes.

 

[Destructo6]

My proposal is to regulate guns the same way we regulate cars, planes and other motor vehicles.

I'd love that, if it were truly done the same way: everything is legal on private property, very few limits otherwise, and the ability to use it just about anywhere.

For CA non-op registration, it's a flat $15 filing fee and they don't bother you until you decide to re-register it. The vehicle has to be off public property, though, which stands to reason, since "non-op" means "..on public property". I just re-registered my 67 Mustang after 5 years of non-op ($45).

 

[Destructo6]

Slow server double tap.

 

[Cool Hand Luke 22:36]

Although the 1994 ban outlawed the manufacture of 19 semiautomatic weapons and features such as bayonet mounts, flash suppressors, collapsing stocks, certain grips and grenade launchers, gun manufacturers easily outmaneuvered the law with a few minor changes and a new name for the same weapons.

Evil me, I "easily outmanuver" the speed limit every day by not exceeding it.

 

[Tomac]

There's a fatal flaw in any "regulation" scheme requiring fees of any kind:
All the govt has to do is raise the "fee" high enough that it becomes unaffordable and voila, instant gun control ("we're sorry, but the fee has gone up to $10K per firearm...") .
Tomac

 

[mercedesrules]

We live in a great country where even retards can have jobs and earn a living.