Wal-Mart is striking a deal with New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg

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Wal-Mart is striking a deal with New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg on tighter standards for gun sales.

Wal-Mart is the nation's largest seller of firearms and Bloomberg is an outspoken gun control advocate.

Bloomberg is announcing the initiative Monday as he meets with Mayors Against Illegal Guns. He founded that group to try to crack down on the unlawful traffic in weapons that are often used in crimes.

Under the group's Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership, Wal-Mart Stores Inc. will agree to keep certain records.

Mayoral spokesman Jason Post says that if a gun buyer is linked to a crime, the company will be aware of it the next time that person tries to buy a gun.

Wal-Mart also will also conduct background checks on employees who handle guns.

Wal-Mart
702 SW 8th St.
Bentonville, AR 72716

Phone: (479) 273-4000
Fax: (479) 277-1830

2008 Sales (mil.) $378,799.0
2007 Employees 1,900,000

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As we have some lawyers here, I have only one question:

Is this legal for Walmart to track such information? (I have no doubt Bloomberg wouldn't care)
 
So where is the section in Wal-Mart that sales "Short" guns.
Haven't seen very many Crimes committed with a .270, or 300Win Mag.

Just shows how "dumb" they really are......I all ready knew,
they just keep reassuring it.
 
Doesn't Wal-Mart already have to keep the 4473s (or whatever their ## is) that you fill out upon purchasing a gun that all FFL holders must keep? What more is needed?
Are they photocopying license photos?
Something isn't being 'splained here ...
I mean, how does one become "linked to a crime" without winding up being refused by the NICS check? Either you're a criminal or not.
 
I thought Walmart was getting out of the gun business??

So where is the section in Wal-Mart that sales "Short" guns.
Haven't seen very many Crimes committed with a .270, or 300Win Mag.
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Walmart is stopping the flow of "cop killers"... Don't you support the police? Why does anyone need a gun anyway?

:p
 
Under the group's Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership, Wal-Mart Stores Inc. will agree to keep certain records.

Mayoral spokesman Jason Post says that if a gun buyer is linked to a crime, the company will be aware of it the next time that person tries to buy a gun.
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Uh, if they have an FFL, then they already do these things. The hell with Bloomberg, they agreed with the ATF to keep certain records and run a NICS check before a sale, which will alert them to the fact that the buyer has been linked to a crime.
 
Uh, if they have an FFL, then they already do these things. The hell with Bloomberg, they agreed with the ATF to keep certain records and run a NICS check before a sale, which will alert them to the fact that the buyer has been linked to a crime.
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In this case it's slightly different. Walmart is going to keep track of whether or not the GUN you bought was later used in a crime and then use that information against you.
 
Walmart Cuts Deal with Bloomberg

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-ap-gun-sales,0,4554361.story

Wal-Mart Toughens Gun Policies

WASHINGTON - Wal-Mart, the nation's largest seller of firearms, is striking a deal with outspoken gun control advocate New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg on tighter standards for such sales.

Bloomberg is announcing the initiative Monday as he meets with Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a group he founded to try to crack down on the unlawful traffic in weapons that are often used in crimes.

Under the group's Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership, Wal-Mart Stores Inc. will agree to retain records of all sales in which guns are later found to be used in crimes, said mayoral spokesman Jason Post. The company will also conduct background checks on employees who handle guns.
 
NICS check anyways for guns purchases. Background check for employees? I dont think this is necessarily a bad idea. Most of the folks working in gun shops around the nation were (most likely) at one time, gun buyers, there fore logic (not used most of the time) the people working in gun shops are okay folks (unless you own Dons Guns in Indianapolis IN <yuck>). This background check for employees is simply a hassle for the employee, not necessarily the consumer.

I feel this is a move just to make news during a day when there is little news to be had. That or Bloomberg is jsut aping for attention (Mayors against Illegal Guns? What is that? Two guys at a Stuckeys somewhere?).
 
why why what is their political gain for doing such? more unnecessary paper work for some poor minimum wage employee who could give a rats who is signing the paper work..........pointless and a waist of time to the employee what is Wal mart getting out of this?

Boycott....well I have been long doing that for them for a while now but because of employee treatment, china, destroying small business owners in small towns ect.
 
will agree to retain records of all sales in which guns are later found to be used in crimes,

I don't get this. Isn't this business as usual? I mean, if a gun is used in a crime and recovered, isn't it already recorded at the police station or something of that nature? Background checks on sales people....who cares.
 
why why what is their political gain for doing such?
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Because, as ambush points out, it isn't any more work for them than they are already doing. It doesn't hinder gun sales, doesn't cost them anything, and they get a big city Mayor on their side. What did they have to lose?
 
In this case it's slightly different. Walmart is going to keep track of whether or not the GUN you bought was later used in a crime and then use that information against you.
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Really? Can you please post a link explaining this? I didn't get that from reading the posted article, but I admit I know nothing about MAIG's Responsible Firearms Retailers Policy.
 
Wal-Mart also will also conduct background checks on employees who handle guns.
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They're idiots if they don't do this already!

So where is the section in Wal-Mart that sales "Short" guns.
Haven't seen very many Crimes committed with a .270, or 300Win Mag.

Just shows how "dumb" they really are......I all ready knew,
they just keep reassuring it.
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My take: Wal-Mart is promising to "do something" that won't impact them in the least. NICS would show if someone has a criminal record ANYWAY. Furthermore, it's a serious PITA for an FFL, when a "trace" is done. It costs money. (I'm on the board of a club-owned shooting range, and we are discussing doing firearms sales and transfers. Let me tell you, you want to avoid this stuff if you don't want your employees tied up while paying them.) Wal-Mart might want to track buyers who result in "traces" anyway; it's good business, if it's legal for them to do it.

Sounds to me like a case of telling Bloomberg something that he's too dumb not to understand has no effect, so he leaves them alone.

The only bad thing is that his organized-crime-style techniques are working.
 
Really? Can you please post a link explaining this? I didn't get that from reading the posted article, but I admit I know nothing about MAIG's Responsible Firearms Retailers Policy.
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You're completly right, I misread it. As it is written, it sounds like what already happens. Perhaps I was reading into it as I know that seems to be Bloomberg's aim lately.

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The later posting of the article bears out my earlier statement. I retract my retraction. ;)
 
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Well, then, I think we should all, man and woman alike, show up at Wal Mart dressed in a burqua so they can't see our faces!
 
In this case it's slightly different. Walmart is going to keep track of whether or not the GUN you bought was later used in a crime and then use that information against you.
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I'm curious about how Wal-Mart could possibly know whether any firearm it sold was later used in a crime. I suppose it could know if a firearm it is selling was previously used in a crime, but I don't think that Wal-Mart sells previously owned guns. Could it be that Wal-Mart requires all law enforcement officers to report crimes to it, or does the Wal-Mart manager implant tracking devices in the fillings of all customers who purchase guns?

As for Wal-Mart's ability to "use" such information against anyone at all, I wonder what that means. Are their perhaps Wal-Mart SWAT teams that invade the homes of such people and revoke their sneakers?
 
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